On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Stroller <strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk> wrote: > > On 31 July 2013, at 19:09, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > >> On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 12:56 PM, Stroller >> <strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk> wrote: >>> >>> On 31 July 2013, at 18:23, Alan McKinnon wrote: >>>> ... >>>> Whinging about systemd binaries being installed is valid, but whinging >>>> about some data files is not. Anyone who does is letting their OCD show >>>> in ways they really should be keeping private. >>> >>> Hmmmn, it's a bit freaking weird - if I'm understanding correctly some of >>> the statements made here about systemd - that there will be files installed >>> to /etc/init.d/ that don't actually do anything. >> >> If you use systemd, all the files installed in /etc/init.d (except >> functions.sh) don't actually do nothing. > > Right, which is a bit freakin' odd, because on most every previous distro and > other *nix system, that's where the system administrator goes to start and > stop services. > > If they're not used, in this case, I don't think they should be installed. > > /etc/init.d is wholly different from /usr/share/package-name/examples > > There are many other directories on the system where it's no problem to have > some idle, unused, "wasted" files, but /etc/init.d has long been an important > directory.
That was one of the reasons I started the gentoo-systemd-only overlay; if you used systemd, and tried to run "/etc/init.d/whatever start", the results would vary from "annoying" to "catastrophic". Nowadays you get the following warning: * You are attempting to run an openrc service on a * system which openrc did not boot. * You may be inside a chroot or you may have used * another initialization system to boot this system. * In this situation, you will get unpredictable results! * If you really want to do this, issue the following command: * touch /run/openrc/softlevel So it's pretty harmless. I believe the same applies for the files in /etc/init.d (or /usr/lib/systemd/system) that for the files in /etc/cron.daily, or /etc/bash_completion.d. They should be installed unconditionally. If you don't like it, INSTALL_MASK'd them. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
