Alan McKinnon wrote:
> Can you log into a vt and tail ~/.xsession-errors and see anything
> useful in there? I use a vt for this so konsole is not in the mix
> while trying to tail stuff. I've historically found that lockups of
> around 30 seconds are so are often DNS lookup failures, and lockups of
> 1-2 minutes are often IO timeouts (in my case usually nfs or smb
> mounts that went away when I did something stupid hehehehe ) You can
> also try stracing the kdeinit process to see what they are doing and
> where they are blocking. With KDE it's a lot harder to find the
> process to trace (there are so *many* process), sorting top on the "S"
> column can help - look for stuff listed as "D" in that column. While
> we discuss KDE, any idea why my panel will occasionally stop receiving
> mouse events and updates occasionally after coming out of suspend?
> When this happnes, the clock stops ticking. Very annoying.... 

I checked in /var/log but forgot about the one in the home directory for
some reason.  That file you mentioned is FULL of stuff like this:

QPainter::brush: Painter not active
QPainter::font: Painter not active
QPainter::pen: Painter not active
QPainter::brush: Painter not active
QPainter::font: Painter not active
QPainter::pen: Painter not active
QPainter::brush: Painter not active
QPainter::pen: Painter not active
QPainter::setPen: Painter not active
QPainter::save: Painter not active
QPainter::setRenderHint: Painter must be active to set rendering hints
QPainter::pen: Painter not active
QPainter::pen: Painter not active
QPainter::setBrush: Painter not active
QPainter::setPen: Painter not active
QPainter::drawPath: Painter not active
QPainter::restore: Unbalanced save/restore
QPainter::setPen: Painter not active
QPainter::save: Painter not active
QPainter::setRenderHint: Painter must be active to set rendering hints
QPainter::pen: Painter not active
QPainter::pen: Painter not active
QPainter::setBrush: Painter not active
QPainter::setPen: Painter not active
QPainter::drawPath: Painter not active
QPainter::restore: Unbalanced save/restore
QPainter::setPen: Painter not active
QPainter::setWorldTransform: Painter not active
QPainter::setOpacity: Painter not active
QPainter::setBrush: Painter not active

Trust me, I would NEVER torture you with the whole file.  When I say
full, I mean it is HUGE.  I also found this interesting from that file:

plasma-desktop(3354)/libplasma Plasma::isPluginVersionCompatible:
unversioned plugin detected, may result in instability
plasma-desktop(3354)/libplasma Plasma::isPluginVersionCompatible:
unversioned plugin detected, may result in instability
plasma-desktop(3354)/libplasma Plasma::isPluginVersionCompatible:
unversioned plugin detected, may result in instability
knotify(3352)/phonon (KDE plugin):
QDBusError("org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply", "Did not receive a
reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a
reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply
timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.")
knotify(3352)/phonon (KDE plugin):
QDBusError("org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply", "Did not receive a
reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a
reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply
timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.")
plasma-desktop(3354)/libplasma Plasma::isPluginVersionCompatible:
unversioned plugin detected, may result in instability
plasma-desktop(3354): ""geometry" - conversion of "560,4,0,51" to QRectF
failed"
plasma-desktop(3354): ""geometry" - conversion of "1813,4,0,51" to
QRectF failed"
plasma-desktop(3354): ""geometry" - conversion of "1809,4,0,51" to
QRectF failed"
plasma-desktop(3354): ""geometry" - conversion of "1805,4,0,51" to
QRectF failed"
plasma-desktop(3354)/kdecore (K*TimeZone*): KSystemTimeZones: ktimezoned
initialize() D-Bus call failed:  "Did not receive a reply. Possible
causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message
bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the
network connection was broken."

static bool QDeclarativeMetaType::isModule(const QByteArray&, int, int)
Qt 4.7 import detected; please note that Qt 4.7 is directly reusable as
QtQuick 1.x with no code changes. Continuing, but startup time will be
slower.
plasma-desktop(3354)/kdecore (KConfigSkeleton)
KCoreConfigSkeleton::writeConfig:
link XMLID_34_ hasn't been detected!
link XMLID_34_ hasn't been detected!
link XMLID_36_ hasn't been detected!
file:///usr/share/apps/plasma/plasmoids/notifier/contents/ui/devicenotifier.qml:175:5:
QML QDeclarativeListView_QML_20: Possible anchor loop detected on
vertical anchor.

And this too:

plasma-desktop(3354)/libplasma Plasma::isPluginVersionCompatible:
unversioned plugin detected, may result in instability
kwin(3346)/kdeui (KNotification) KNotification::slotReceivedIdError:
Error while contacting notify daemon "Did not receive a reply. Possible
causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message
bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the
network connection was broken."
plasma-desktop(3354) FolderView::setAppletTitle: WORKING WITH "" WE GOT ""

And this too:

QDBusConnection: session D-Bus connection created before
QCoreApplication. Application may misbehave.
QDBusConnection: session D-Bus connection created before
QCoreApplication. Application may misbehave.
kwin(3346) KWin::Workspace::slotCompositingOptionsInitialized:
Initializing OpenGL compositing
kwin(3346) KWin::SceneOpenGL::initBufferConfigs: Drawable visual (depth 
24 ): 0x "71"
kwin(3346) KWin::SceneOpenGL::initBufferConfigs: Drawable visual (depth 
32 ): 0x "b4"
kwin(3346) KWin::SceneOpenGL::initBuffer: Buffer visual (depth  24 ): 0x
"6f"
QDBusConnection: session D-Bus connection created before
QCoreApplication. Application may misbehave.
QDBusConnection: session D-Bus connection created before
QCoreApplication. Application may misbehave.

I checked some of the dbus packages, most of them only show one package
available for install.  So, I guess if a new one breaks, you are just
screwed.  I thought there was some sort of policy that there was to be
two versions of stuff in the tree so people could go back if needed? 

Well, now what?  Overlay and hope I hit a good version?  Switch to icewm
or something? 

As to your problem, I have not tried suspend yet.  Although, my panel is
all weird right now too.  Sometimes it works and sometimes not.  I do
know this, you click on the K thingy, it locks up for a good little
while.  Don't even think about right clicking and logging out.  It locks
up about everything KDE, including Konsole. 

This sucks.  :/  It sucks more that they removed the previous versions
of some stuff and I can't try going back a version.  Jeeez!!

Dale

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