Am Mon, 26 Nov 2012 18:59:43 -0500
schrieb "Walter Dnes" <waltd...@waltdnes.org>:

> On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 11:41:41PM +0100, Marc Joliet wrote
> > 
> > Hah, I wonder if that's because the script was written before the x86
> > and x86_64 architectures were merged in the kernel :) . I remember
> > Heise reporting on that a few years back.
> 
>   Probably correct.  The machine is approx 4 years old.  It's also a
> 32-bit kernel, because back then...
> 
> 1) Flash didn't work on 64-bit kernels without jumping through flaming hoops

This never bothered me *that* much. You needed, what, nspluginwrapper? I don't
remember much what my experience was like, I think it was merely annoying, but
it's been years.

Looking at my merge history, I used it from March 2007 (my first Gentoo/Sabayon
install) till December 2008. Then I see I had it installed again from June to
September 2010.

So first of all, it looks like I was using the netscape-flash alpha releases
that had 64 bit support (in tree since November 2008), and genlop verifies this.

What happened in 2010: Adobe didn't manage to deliver a 64 bit version of Flash
10.1. I see the merge and unmerge dates of nspluginwrapper coincide with
upgrading to adobe-flash 10.1 and then to 10.2, respectively.

But hey, it looks like Flash is going the way of the Dodo, so hooray!
 
> 2) Wine required either multilib support or straight 32-bit linux

My box is around 6 years old now (bought at the beginning of my studies with
my earnings from (semi-)compulsory military service). I still went with Gentoo
amd64, even though 64bit support was still... incomplete. I don't regret it,
either. Gentoos emul-linux-* packages tended to be complete enough for my
needs, and I could even work with my student edition of Matlab.

Of course, everybody has their own requirements to consider, and mine didn't
dictate a 32 bit OS.

>   On a new machine today, I'd probably install 64-bits, unless there was
> some weird requirement for 32-bits.  I don't push my machines that hard,
> and they generally last.  I've mostly bought Dell desktops (including
> this one).  The exception was was because Dell wasn't offering a machine
> with 8 gigs of RAM when I wanted it.  The fact that the local guy also
> had a motherboard with a PS/2 keyboard connector was another plus.  I
> have a couple of of IBM "clickety-clack" 104-keyboard specials that were
> being thrown out by my former employer a few years ago.  I love them.
> 
>   I've bought a couple of ASUS notebooks as well.

Hell, my workplace installs 64 bit systems by default (and has been for a while
now). If that's not a sign... well, OK, it's a research institution, but
still ;) .

I only ever owned this one computer of mine, I could never afford a replacement
or a laptop (argh!), only upgrades every now and then, like recently buying
2x2GB RAM to replace my previous 4x512MB - and it's DDR2, so 3 times as
expensive as the same amount of DDR3 :( (well, in the store, at least: about 60
€ vs. 20 €). I won't be buying more RAM without replacing my mainboard and CPU,
even though my current mainboard supports up to 8GB, but this upgrade was
definitely worth it.

-- 
Marc Joliet
--
"People who think they know everything really annoy those of us who know we
don't" - Bjarne Stroustrup

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