Am Samstag, 21. Juli 2012, 15:33:05 schrieb Nikos Chantziaras: > On 20/07/12 10:24, Philip Webb wrote: > > I plan to build a new machine in the next few months: > > it wb for regular desktop use, but performance is as important as price. > > > A quick look at what was available in April suggested > > an Intel Ivy Bridge i7 ( 22 nm ) ; Phoronix said it works with Kernel 3.2 > > + an Intel Z77 mobo (I usually buy ASUS) & that power/watt was excellent. > > […] > > I don't want to pay a premium price for a bleeding-edge device > > which wb available at a more normal price a few months later.
Those two statements are a bit contradicting. Generally, I wouldn’t buy an i7. First, those high-end components tend to be comparatively more expensive than their smaller siblings (regarding bang for the buck). Okay, it’s a quad with HT instead of “just a quad” (oh my, the times we live in), but secondly, if it’s *mostly* a desktop and occasionally performance-critical, I think it is also a waste of power. More power means more heat means more fan noise. > > I wb buying it from the local store (Canada Computers), not on-line. > > > Does anyone have thoughts or advice ? A friend of mine built a new machine recently. I too am planning on doing this once I got the bucks (hopefully) in a few months. So we picked components together, based on recommendations of an “efficient home-brew PC” article in computer magazine c’t. We know that Intel is more expensive, but also less power-hungry and known to work excellent both with Linux and with other components. And my friend believes that the Intel graphics drivers are still superior from a FOSS standpoint (he had an ATI in his old system). Using the comprehensive Wikipedia articles on Ivy Bridge¹ and LGA1155², we decided for the biggest i5 (3570K, ~220€), as it has the bigger of the two HD Graphics chips (external Graphics were not on the shoping list). This new baby built GCC in 12 minutes and a bit. First he wanted an Intel board, but because those don’t have VGA anymore, he went for Gigagybe. He was building a big tower ATX system, and so chose the Z77 (around 100€). I, however, am planning for something more modest, a cute mATX system with medium power. Right now I’m planning on a B75 board. It has all *I* need and is considerably cheaper (70€). I think I may also take the smaller i5 that comes with HD4000, the 3475S, which is around 25€ cheaper. But even then, it is still a beast when compared to my Core 2 Duo laptop which has to run permanently throttled due to its ageing heat spreader. > This is a Sandy Bridge CPU. I normally don't recommend the Ivy Bridge > ones because they run hotter, so changing the clock multipliers isn't as > fun as with Sandy Bridge. Yeah, according to the aforementioned Wikipedia article¹, they changed the heat spreader material inside. However, the 2550K you recommended has a TDP of almost 100W, whereas Ivy Bridge maxes at 77W. How much those figues are to be taken as real-world values is of course something else. A nice improvement of Ivy Bridge in my view is its integrated USB3 controller, which, according to some tests, is considerably better than the patched-on solutions of Sandy Bridge boards. And if you don’t want a dedicated graphics card but still want some GPU power, that’s of course another plus for Ivy. Hm... perhaps one can use the best of both worlds and use a Sandy CPU ond an Ivy board? The other way around would work with a BIOS upgrade. Footnoty stuff ¹ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivy_Bridge_(microarchitecture) ¹ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGA_1155 -- Gruß | Greetings | Qapla' Please do not share anything from, with or about me with any Facebook service. “Microsoft isn't evil, they just make really crappy operating systems.” – Linus Torvalds
