On 8 December 2011 14:25, Michael Mol <mike...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 9:10 AM, James Broadhead > <jamesbroadh...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Especially in the past, they have allowed their political views on >> Open Source / Free Software to interfere with the best user >> experience[3]. >> >> [3] The whole concept of 'restricted extras' is detrimental to distro >> usability, as is having a separate package-manager-frontend for >> installing them, as is a separate repository which is disabled by >> default. > > I'm not a fan of Ubuntu, but that really didn't start with them. > *Debian* has it in a far worse way. As an example, say you're in my > position and want Squid running as a website accelerator, and you want > SSL support. Squid can do this. Except the binary packages Debian > builds have SSL disabled because of fears of incompatible licenses > between Squid and OpenSSL.
"Especially in the past" _means_ 'back when they were closer to being Debian'. Things have improved over the years, but it's still difficult to get a codec-heavy mplayer in Ubuntu without building it manually for example.