On 2011-11-11, Mark Knecht <markkne...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 6:54 AM, Dale <rdalek1...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Now to teach him how to update the thing.
>
> I'll be interested in hearing how that goes. I had one weekend running
> Ubuntu and ended up running away as fast as I could.

I use Ubuntu occasionally, and it's always a teeth-gritting,
hair-pulling experience.  For me, it's the most non-intuitive distro
I've ever used.  And it is the "Ubuntu" part I can't grok, not the
Debian part -- I never had any problems with Debian.  I ran Debian on
a server at home for years, and even created a Debian subset distro
for a product many years back.

> It wasn't that it was bad or didn't work, but that the management of
> it seemed so different from any distro I'd run before that I didn't
> want to deal with learning it.

Exactly.  Anytime you want to do something administrative, it's always
an ordeal unless you can just skip the "Ubuntu" stuff and do the
equivalent of editing /etc/network/interfaces (I never could get the
GUI network config thingy to work).

> Let's see how that does for you.
>
> Again, remembering I didn't really give it much of a chance - I was
> running on a Power PC Mac Mini - two things that drove me mad were:
>
> 1) The basic install didn't tell me what the root password was.

There isn't one by default.  The first thing you do after an Ubuntu
install is always set the root password:

  $ sudo bash
  # passwd  

The next thing you do is configure it to boot into text mode with all
the kernel messages visible.

Then you've got something that's almost tolerable.

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