On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 12:52 PM, Michael Schreckenbauer <grim...@gmx.de> wrote: > On Monday, 12. September 2011 12:42:00 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Dale <rdalek1...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > You say it was disinformation about /var. Care to explain why me and >> > one >> > other person read the same thing? It was mentioned on -dev. I was >> > pretty sure it was and then another person posted they read the same. >> > So, I'm almost certain it was said at this point. Surely we can't >> > both be wrong. >> Where did you guys read it? Who said /var could not be in its own >> partition anymore? What piece of code stops working if /var it's in >> its own partition? Who is proposing that a separated /var will not be >> supported in the future? > > Just have a look in /var/lib/* for example.
I did mentioned /var/lib two paragraphs below. Do you guys respond an email while you read it? > You guarantee, that nothing of this stuff is or will be needed by udev? I don't have to. Contrary to most of the guys here (I'm not saying you are one of them), I don't see the proposed change as "irrational". It makes complete sense (you actually mention several reasons why it makes sense in others emails here to Alan and others). Requiring /var to be on / would not make sense. Even more: then the idea of /run and /lock on / would be completely insane, if eventually they would require a non separated /var. The proposal of /run and /lock on / is exactly to allow /var to be on its own partition on te foreseeable future. >> The thread I post talks about /var/run and /var/lock needing to be >> symbolic links to /run and /lock, but AFAIK (and I tend to follow this >> sort of things) /var not only can be in its own partition, it is the >> recommended setup. > > Yes. Until this dev has his next brilliant idea. Give them some credit. This whole lot of changes is not the imposition of some crazy dev. Is the result of years of the Open Source stack evolving, and writing the code that implements a design. In particula Kay has been writing code in udev since 2003, with version 003. I would think he actually knows the problem, and even if you don't agree with his design, you got to recognize that he is the most knowledgeable guy wrt the problem. And I mean the *general* problem, not the "I have a server since 1964 and if the design I've been using since the Middle Ages has been working all this time I don't see any reason to change it". >> Saying that proposing /run and /lock to be available at boot time >> Damn, this list is like crack. > > For sure :) Yeah. I will need to break out cold turkey at some point. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
