On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 12:16 PM, Dale <rdalek1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 10:19 PM, Grant Edwards
>> <grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>
>>> On 2011-09-05, Alex Schuster<wo...@wonkology.org>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Graham Murray wonders:
>>>>
>>>>> Has the libreoffice ebuild suddenly developed stability problems? Today
>>>>> is the 4th time in five days that my daily ~x86 emerge uD world has
>>>>> rebuilt libreoffice. On 1st Sept it was because of a use flag change,
>>>>> then the next day a new version was put in the tree, then there was an
>>>>> -r1 release and today there is yet another use flag change.
>>>>
>>>> Same here on ~amd64. The last change is that cups is mandatory now,
>>>
>>> What??
>>>
>>> So if I don't have a printer, and have no intention of printing
>>> anything from this system, libreoffice requires that I install Cups?
>>
>> In my puny laptop, CUPS takes 1 min to compile, the source code is 4.4
>> Mb and the installed binaries are 9.3 Mb. It seems to be updated at
>> the rate of once a month, roughly.
>>
>> I have never configured CUPS, *ever*, and it always just works when I
>> connect to a new network. The printers just appear in the print
>> dialog, and it always works. It always remembers my last selected
>> options.
>>
>> To me it seems a rather sane default to always require the most used
>> printing system in an office suite.
>>
>
> This is rather odd.  For the longest, every time I had a cups update, I had
> to delete my printers then add them back again.  It would not print until I
> did so.  That wasn't long ago either.  I haven't had to do that the last few
> upgrades but for over a year, that was required.  It used to get on my
> nerves.  Restarting the service I can understand.  It needs to reload its
> new config and all but not deleting and adding them again.
>
> Maybe you and I should add, YMMV.  ;-)

I think that goes without saying: every one can only speak about
personal experience.

But the thing is, CUPS is basically owned by Apple. And I'm pretty
sure the CUPS Gentoo installs is basically the same that Apple
installs in their machines (the patches Gentoo applies are few and
don't change the source that much).

I don't like Apple, and I don't own nor use any of their products. But
I have to admit they usually just works. And (in my experience, YMMV,
etc.), it's the same in my Gentoo boxen.

I'm in my last PhD "tour", and I have connected my laptop (and
printed) in like 4 or 5 different networks of universities literally
all over the world in the last few boxes. And I just Ctrl-P, select
printer, and click on "print".

>From that point of view (mine), making CUPS mandatory for LibreOffice
(which this thread is all about) seems like the reasonable thing to
do.

Regards.
-- 
Canek Peláez Valdés
Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

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