On Thursday, August 04, 2011 12:10:25 AM Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On Wed 03 August 2011 17:44:08 Willie Wong did opine thusly:
> > On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 01:38:58PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > > It's sensible really - portage is not the only package manager
> > > out there and therefore should not be in @system. The user did
> > > not put portage in world, and did not use -D, so portage is not
> > > updating the package.
> > > 
> > > The solution is simple - all users should put their preferred
> > > package manager into world and what Stroller is seeing will
> > > stop happening.
> > > 
> > > Zac can't force portage into system like he could with less and
> > > nano and have few or non side-effects. A virtual package
> > > manager only says that you *have* one, not *which* one. So as
> > > usual for Gentoo, the user gets to tell the software which one
> > > it is.
> > > 
> > > I don't see a problem.
> > 
> > Though it is silly IMHO that portage would want to remove itself
> > with depclean. Could it not be hardcoded into portage that it
> > should try to keep itself updated and not commit suicide?
> > (Independently of the @system sets.)
> 
> What about replacing portage with paludis? In your scenario, portage
> could not do that.

It would be possible by:
1) emerge paludiis
2) paludis - delete portage (I don't know Paludis, so not sure of the exact 
syntax)

This would then be a safer way of doing things as you'd always have at least 1 
package manager installed.

--
Joost

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