Oops apologies. Should send this on gentoo-user email address. Since a recent upgrade of polkit (I think) as a normal user I can no longer shutdown using log out, shutdown option not available. As root using shutdown only logs you out but does not shutdown.
On a second machine as a normal user I can see shutdown but this only logs me out. Are we supposed to write our own rules for this? I am in plugdev group and have dbus, consolekit and polkit in use flags. I cannot see any difference between config files on 2 machines but 1 is a laptop the other desktop??? Any suggestions other than converting to e16? (which is becoming tempting). This seems to happen every upgrade of xfce4/polkit/dbus. John D Maunder