Apparently, though unproven, at 16:38 on Sunday 22 May 2011, Indi did opine thusly:
> On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 12:10:01AM +0200, walt wrote: > > On 05/20/2011 08:24 PM, Indi wrote: > > > On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 12:50:01AM +0200, walt wrote: > > >> For you users of unstable gentoo: the recent update of 'icu' broke > > >> dozens of packages (as it always does) including libreoffice. > > >> > > >> The problem is that libreoffice fails to build if you have bison-2.5 > > > > > > I have bison-2.5, but am using libreoffice-bin which seems fine. > > > > Yes, that would be expected because bison is needed only at compile time, > > not at run time. > > > > I would be using libreoffice-bin too, except for a ridiculous change made > > about a year ago in the way openoffice charts are scaled on the y-axis. > > > > I complained bitterly on the openoffice 'chart' mail list, only to > > discover that openoffice changed its perfectly good scaling algorithm to > > ape a change made in M$ Office! > > > > Nobody at openoffice.org would consider reverting that ridiculous mee-too > > change, so I've been editing the open(libre)office source code to remove > > it myself before compiling it. I was very disappointed to find a major > > open- source project following M$ around like a hungry puppy :( > > It's unfortunate that we don't have small, fast, light, standalone > programs to deal with the formats of word, excel, powerpoint, etc but > if we did odds are most people would shun them for a big, bloaty > office suite anyway. Personally, I'd love it if I could open and edit > those office formats in vim... What makes you think they don't *already* exist? * app-office/libreoffice-bin-3.3.2 Total files : 8138 Total size : 498.24 MiB * app-office/koffice-libs-2.3.3 Total files : 697 Total size : 19.45 MiB * app-office/koffice-data-2.3.3 Total files : 214 Total size : 608.63 KiB * app-office/karbon-2.3.3 Total files : 160 Total size : 3 MiB * app-office/kexi-2.3.3 Total files : 337 Total size : 8.17 MiB * app-office/kpresenter-2.3.3 Total files : 188 Total size : 9.28 MiB * app-office/krita-2.3.3 Total files : 783 Total size : 26.10 MiB * app-office/kspread-2.3.3 Total files : 337 Total size : 11.62 MiB * app-office/kword-2.3.3-r1 Total files : 215 Total size : 7.82 MiB Small, fast, light, standalone: yeah, they are all there. Editing them in something vim-alike is highly unlikely to be useful - compare antiword. Office suites are gui programs and the gui layout is as important (if not more so) than the content. And I haven't even touched on graphics elements yet. So you may be able to modify the content but probably not the layout. Have a look inside OOo source code sometimes for a look at what it takes to calculate something as "simple" as where on the page some text goes. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com