On Fri, Aug 05, 2005 at 01:41:03AM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > If you're going to learn Linux, why not start with a distribution which > caters for newbies when making design decisions, rather than one which > assumes that its users know what they're doing? > I partially agree.
In my mind, learning linux is about two things: 1) getting familiarized with the user interface and userland tools to be productive in everyday tasks. 2) system administration. And I happen to believe that it would be unfair to force 2 on someone who is not familiar with 1. If I were to set out on a crusade converting people to linux, I would first give out Knoppix CDs for them to try out the environment. A little hand holding should allow them to get over the fear of the CLI. After building up their confidence and some basic skills (understanding the directory structure, basic bash bulletins; simple things), then depending on their level of commitment, I will give them one of Gentoo, Debian, or Mandrake. One of the things I wished someone explained to me when I first installed gentoo is choosing the various tools for system administration. The pros/cons of different cron daemons, different MTAs, different logging utilities. My choice of vixie-cron + metalog + logrotate + postfix is arbitrary and contrived, and sometimes I wonder whether I would be better off running syslog + qmail. But I do not feel like completely rebuilding my system from sketch to redo those design decisions. Heck, if people come to me for advice, I would probably just tell them to install ssmtp... Anyway, my point is that it is only harmful if an individual relies too much on a gui for system administration. People should be forced to learn the joy of administrating by hand editing the config files in /etc. But for someone who just want to try out "this lie knocks thingie" or for someone looking for open alternatives of userland tools, a pretty/easy to use GUI might probably be a better and gentler introduction to free software. W -- YAAH! DEATH TO OATMEAL! -- Calvin Sortir en Pantoufles: up 4 days, 8:30 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list