On Sunday 29 August 2010 03:24:42 Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> On 08/28/2010 10:42 PM, Dale wrote:
> > Alex Schuster wrote:
> >> Dale writes:
> >>> It would be nice if something like *fdisk could edit the labels tho.
> >>> It would be so much easier. I didn't see anything in the man pages
> >>> tho.
> >> 
> >> I'd like this, too. cfdisk displays them, but is not abel to edit.
> >> 
> >>> I looked into LVM a good while ago. It's just to much for me to keep
> >>> up with since I just have a desktop system here. It has its good
> >>> points but just way overkill for what I have here.
> >> 
> >> It's not that complicated. In a nutshell:
> >> 
> >> Choose the partitions you want to use for LVM, and prepare them to be
> >> physical volumes:
> >> pvcreate /dev/sda[678]
> >> 
> >> Create a volume group out of these partitions:
> >> vgcreate myvg /dev/sda[678]
> >> 
> >> Create logical volumes in this volume group:
> >> lvcreate -L 5G -n lvm1 myvg
> >> lvcreate -L 2G -n lvm2 myvg
> >> 
> >> Use these logical volumes just as disk partitions:
> >> 
> >> mke2fs -j -L fs_on_lvm /dev/myvg/lvm1
> >> mount /dev/myg/lvm1 /mnt/fs_on_lvm
> >> 
> >> The file system is too small? Just extend its size by 1G, without
> >> unmouning:
> >> 
> >> lvresize -L +1G /dev/myvg/lvm1
> >> 
> >> The volume groups is getting full, no space to add LVMs? Add other
> >> partitions. If you like, even from a 2nd drive:
> >> 
> >> pvcreate /dev/sdb5
> >> vgextend myvg /dev/sdb5
> >> 
> >> So, it's of course more complicated than just firing up cfdisk, create
> >> partitions and file systems on them, but you have much more flexibility.
> >> Once you have LVM, you do not have to care what the actual device
> >> names of
> >> your drives are. If sda becomes sdb and vice versa, no problem, and
> >> nothing to worry about. LVM does not use the device name, it scans each
> >> partition and uses the LVM UUIDs on them to identify what is what.
> >> 
> >> Wonko
> > 
> > Since I finally got this thing settled with partition sizes, that's
> > pretty complicated. I have root, /boot, /home, portage and a data
> > partition for misc. junk. I doubt it will change any in the near future.
> > 
> > I did read up on it one time a while back. It's neat when you have to
> > add drives and resize things but still a bit much for a little desktop.
> 
> I'd stay away from LVM.  I started using it on a Debian Lenny machine
> and performance went down the drain.  For example, deleting a 3GB file
> was almost instant and now it takes like 15 seconds.  It's almost as if
> with LVM, deleting a file means writing 0 all over the 3GB first :-/

That sounds like a different issue.
I haven't noticed any major performance issues myself.

But to test quickly:
LVM:
# ~/speedtest $ time dd if=/dev/zero of=3gigfile bs=1024 count=3000000
3000000+0 records in                                                            
                                                                                
                                                                             
3000000+0 records out                                                           
                                                                                
                                                                             
3072000000 bytes (3.1 GB) copied, 33.3029 s, 92.2 MB/s                          
                                                                                
                                                                             
                                                                                
                                                                                
                                                                             
real    0m33.305s                                                               
                                                                                
                                                                             
user    0m0.440s                                                                
                                                                                
                                                                             
sys     0m16.370s                                                               
                                                                                
                                                                             
# ~/speedtest $ time rm 3gigfile                                                
                                                                                
                                                                     
                                                                                
                                                                                
                                                                             
real    0m3.827s                                                                
                                                                                
                                                                             
user    0m0.000s                                                                
                                                                                
                                                                             
sys     0m1.131s                                                                
                                                                                
                                                                             

# hdparm -Tt /dev/sda

/dev/sda:
 Timing cached reads:   4758 MB in  2.00 seconds = 2379.87 MB/sec
 Timing buffered disk reads:  274 MB in  3.02 seconds =  90.84 MB/sec
**************
Non-LVM:
# /data/speedtest $ time dd if=/dev/zero of=3gigfile bs=1024 count=3000000      
                                                                                
                                                        
3000000+0 records in                                                            
                                                                                
                                                                             
3000000+0 records out
3072000000 bytes (3.1 GB) copied, 38.2821 s, 80.2 MB/s

real    0m38.284s
user    0m0.397s
sys     0m9.490s
# /data/speedtest $ time rm 3gigfile

real    0m0.721s
user    0m0.000s
sys     0m0.720s

# hdparm -Tt /dev/sdb

/dev/sdb:
 Timing cached reads:   3396 MB in  2.00 seconds = 1698.30 MB/sec
 Timing buffered disk reads:  252 MB in  3.00 seconds =  83.94 MB/sec


Both filesystems are ext3

Based on this, it takes about 3 seconds more. That is something I can easily 
live with.
But instantaneous to 15 seconds, I think there might be some other factors 
there?

--
Joost

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