Daniel Drake <dsd <at> gentoo.org> writes:

> You have to log in first.

OK, excellent clarity.

> > Is this an actual huminoid/cyborg, or a solicitation for somebody
> > to maintain the package?

> Hah. It has to be a person :)

> > OK, I see his name at the bottom, but, if he's to be the 'substantiator'
> > of the jffnms ebuild, wouldn't he have fulfilled the
> > maintainer-needed email address?Or do developers do these things
> > in silence, clandestinely and then become the maintainer when the
> > package is stable?  Or ebuild the package and then hand it off
> > to a poezrrr such as myself?  I'm just not sure what the semantics are here.

> Could mean anything. He might have written an ebuild before trying the
> software, then decided the software wasn't worth it, or the ebuild writing was
> too hard, who knows. But you got a developer posting an ebuild on your
> new-ebuild bug - thats a lot more attention than a lot of these ebuild bugs
> get. I'd suggest you try the ebuild, and email him thanking him for writing
> it, letting him know that it works, and possibly offering your knowledge of
> the application to help develop the ebuild further. Motivate the developer to
> work on it and it will make progress :)
> (again, you'll need to log in to see email addresses)

Well thank you for 'turning on the light' how this whole process works...
I may appear stupid, but, I had no idea what to do or expect....
Simple, yet a very clear answer.....<add this to the bugzilla
documentation>


> > Also, being over 45 puts me at a disadvantage with the lingo and
> > thought processes employed by those youthful minds......
> > Anyway it's been a month since his comments. Maybe he's bored with jffnms,
> > or it's too difficult to create an ebuild, and he has given up and the
> > package is orphaned? How would I know, just sit around with a digit
> > up where no sun shines?

> You can ask him, either on the bug or by email.

I did not want to piss anyone off, as some folks seem
high_strung over naive questions..... I guess I've been
growled_at a few too many times....


> > Surely it does not take a capable person a month to install Jffnms.
> > 1/3 of my attempts (on Debian) actuallywork, until I screwed something
> > up. It's not an easy package to install or configure. But, when it
> > is setup correctly, it a fantastic Network Management Package.....
> > My strengths are more hardware and device driver type of stuff.
> > I'm definately not the web/application specialist it takes to conquer
> > a package such as jffnms. But, if the package has been orphaned, which
> > I'm still trying to ascertain, then I have no choice but to noodle
> > at the jffnms ebuild, do I? Whether I poez as the maintainer is
> > a horse of another color, methinks.....

> Other interested developers may come along, find the bug, and put it into
> portage. Unfortunately this isn't very likely as maintaining an ebuild is a
> big commitment and a lot of work, and many us already have a big enough
> collection under our belts...

Ahhh, see how simple it is to explain to the commoners what's going on.
Now I'd be more likely to take on being a poezrrr_package_perveyor....
especially if I did not get my head (verbally) bitten off for 
stupid mistakes....


> >>No, we lack decent bugzilla documentation but hopefully this 
> >>will be  resolved soon...

> > Now your teasing me? 
> > Can we peep at the unfinished work, if wezz promise to withhold
> > questions and comments?

> I don't think anyones started it yet. :(
> It's something I've been meaning to do for a long time but have not got round
> to it.

You have been most helpful. Sorry if my ignorance offends any readers
of this list.......

James



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