* On Mon May-23-2005 at 12:08:18 AM +0600, askar ... said:
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> apt-get-like comfortable tools? That was my second question. What you
> recommend for those, who would like to learn linux from fundamentals?
> In order to do so, I think, learner has to do everything manually. I
> haven't installed LFS distro before, so I don't know is it like
> Slackware or not, but as the name says, this is "linux from sratch",
> like gentoo...

LFS is quite different from Gentoo. LFS provides documentation that
instructs you how to build your system from scratch. Compared to other
distros, Gentoo requires you to do most of the installation "manually",
but still provides you with tools like bootstrap.sh which do a lot of
the work for you. LFS does not provide tools like this, but instead
instructions of how to do this yourself.

If you think of a linux system as a car, then Fedora, SuSE and those
distros are like buying a car. You can choose some options but it is
already built for you. Gentoo is a car you build yourself, but some of
it is done for you. You get the engine and the frame and everything
else and then put it all together.  LFS is a just a box of tools, and
you must build the engine, frame, and each other part yourself.

When I was new to linux I first installed Slackware because I heard it
was good. I enjoyed using it, it is a good distro. I also tried to
install LFS because I wanted to learn, but that was a bit overwhelming
and when I ran into problems I didn't know where I went wrong since I
was just following instructions. Like you, I installed almost any distro
I could find to see how which one felt comfortable for me. Gentoo
happened to be that one. I would not recommend LFS as a starting point
to get to know the internals of a linux system. Get to know Gentoo (or
Slackware, or whatever) well first and understand how that works. Then
when you have an understanding of what all the core software on you
system is (fex. packages in 'emerge -ep system') I'd say go for an LFS
install.

Then again, everyone is different and maybe you're more clever than I am
and LFS will be easy... I guess the only way to find out is to try it.

-- 
Sami Samhuri

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