On 5/13/05, Neil Bothwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, 12 May 2005 12:47:36 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
> 
> >    As for proceeding with the emerge world operation I don't think
> > there's any particular order you need to go in. The order shown is the
> > was portage would handle it if you let it do it as one big group. I
> > often opt for doing 5-10 packages instead of kicking off the world
> > operation. In that case I'd do it in the order shown before:
> >
> > emerge -pv --newuse grep net-tools kbd binutils-config binutils
> 
> Doing it this way will mess up your world file. Most of the packages in
> the list are dependencies that should be in world themselves. Installing
> them explicitly with emerge adds them to world, with the result that if
> you uninstall the package that required them in the first place, they
> will remain as useless cruft on your system and not be cleaned out by
> emerge depclean.
> 
> If you want to pick individual packages from "emerge -upv world" for
> merging, merge them with the --oneshot argument to prevent them being
> added to world.

OK, so I looked at my world file (hope it's the right one -
/var/lib/portage/world) on my Compaq laptop. This laptop is 18 months
young running Gentoo. I'd done this piece by piece emerge install
thing forever on this. I run all the standard app, plus Gnome, KDE and
fluxbox. I've got a few browsers and just about every audio app
supported by Gentoo. I run xine to watch movies. It's a great system.

My world file is 235 lines long. How screwed up is that really? How
long it yours?

Just glancing through the file I spot very few things that wouldn't be
installed whether they were in in the world file or not, but I do have
28 gnome entries and certainly some of them are not end user Gnomish
things, like gnome-base/librsvg.

I presume this is the 'cruft' you're talking about?

I have a problem with Portage and Gnome specifically. If I want to
emerge Gnome portage wants to emerge in Evolution. I don't use
Evolution but I didn't know how to get what I wanted (Gentoo is about
choice even if Gnome is not...) so I emerged the pieces and got what I
wanted. (And a longer world file...)

How should I have gone about getting Gnome without Evolution?

Thanks,
Mark

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