Hi all, As a 32bit user on many arches I'll try to answer Flow's question below.
On Wed, 26 Jun 2024 at 07:38, Florian Schmaus <f...@gentoo.org> wrote: > > Hi Arthur, > > thanks for taking the time to write this mail. > > On 25/06/2024 19.33, Arthur Zamarin wrote: > > ======== x86 ======== > > > > Stable 32-bit arch. I'll be honest, I don't believe at all this should > > be stable arch anymore. > > I have the impression as well. The time to drop stable keywords for x86 > probably has come. But I always wonder if there is a x86 use-case we are > not aware of. Therefore, if there is a group of x86 Gentoo users out > there, then they should speak now and ideally elaborate a bit on their > use case. I personally support the move to ~arch for all 32bit arches that I use (x86, ppc and arm) as I don't feel many people are testing these platforms, so I've found generally a better experience since switching as fixes seem to get sorted a lot faster. My only concern is around running the testing toolchain on these systems as we have had 2 x86 breakages with glibc causing a user to need to reinstall in at least one occasion and there was also the issue with ppc not working with GCC13 and 14 for a very long time. Now for me I enjoy the challenge of issues like this so I wouldn't have an issue however not everyone is like me so I would advocate that we would have a system in place for a phased keywording around glibc, gcc, llvm, clang and binutils. This way users can have a stable toolchain with minimal issues and users such as myself can help you all by giving you early warning. This wouldn't have to be a permanent plan in place however, I believe it would make the transition a lot smoother for both devs and users. Bugs: https://bugs.gentoo.org/933764 https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=31316 Kind regards, Immolo