>>>>> On Wed, 09 Feb 2022, Sam James wrote: > On Wed, 09 Feb 2022 08:18:07 +0100 > Ulrich Mueller <u...@gentoo.org> wrote:
>> There is no special time period for making such proposals; future EAPI >> bugs can be filed at any time. Preferably, they should be filed early, >> because we've had very bad experience with including last-minute >> features. > Agreed on the latter point, but this doesn't mean a simple courtesy > notice would be problematic. > Not everyone will be aware EAPI 9 is in the works; in particular, it's > useful for our downstreams to know and possibly suggest any improvements > given they're not likely to be as aware of day-to-day developments in > Gentoo, and it's useful as a final poke to notify people that if indeed > they feel something should be in the next EAPI (or "soon"), they should > file a bug and so on. > I am not saying any such requests must be accepted for EAPI 9. But > engaging with the community with a notice isn't a bad thing? > Someone could easily think the next EAPI is years away and therefore > feel no urgency to flesh out their (possibly very simple) idea or > improvement. *shrug* The item is in the Council meeting agenda which is sent to the gentoo-dev-announce mailing list, so people should be aware? Anyway, I am cross-posting this to -dev and I include my original message [0] below. (Sorry for the noise; I still think this is sort of redundant.) Ulrich [0] https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-project/message/7d63f1d8d52e876a9fa8374d816e7e7f | As I had announced in the January meeting, I'd ask the Council to | pre-approve the list of features for EAPI 9, as listed here: | | https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Future_EAPI/EAPI_9_tentative_features | | - Eclass revisions [1] | - EAPI of profiles defaults to repository EAPI [2] | - Allow comments in profile parent files [3] | - econf: Ensure proper end of string in configure --help output [4] | | This will be an EAPI with few new features, and its motivation is mainly | to have eclass revisions. The second and third feature will affect only | profiles, and the fourth feature is effectively a bug fix. | | There were also ideas about no longer exporting A (or alternatively, any | variables) to the ebuild environment [5], but nobody has come forward | with a concrete proposal yet. So, IMHO it will need more discussion and | won't be ready for EAPI 9; developers who have asked for the feature may | consider leading that discussion. IIUC, these would be the TeX and Go | maintainers. | | [1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/806592 | [2] https://bugs.gentoo.org/806181 | [3] https://bugs.gentoo.org/470094 | [4] https://bugs.gentoo.org/815169 | [5] https://bugs.gentoo.org/721088
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