Hi, On 26/05/2020 09.23, Philip Webb wrote: > 200526 Piotr Karbowski wrote: >> On 26/05/2020 00.34, Philip Webb wrote: >>> I'ld rather you didn't. >> You didn't provided any rationale for that. > > I thought I did (smile). > >> Running X as root is anti-pattern, especially nowadays >> when so little effort is required to not have to run it as root. > > I've never run X as root : it's not the UNIX way.
I am not sure if you're trolling me here, or you genuinely not understand that regardless of what user you execute `startx` on, if Xorg have suid, it will start as root. >> You can either enable elogind > > Why would anyone want to abandon the long-successful UNIX method > & adopt some complex replacement ? I wouldn't call running X as root to be long successful UNIX method. Back in the days there was no way to ran X without root, now there is. >> or you can enable suid if you want to preserve your status quo, >> we're talking here about defaults >> that user can change if he has a reason to do so. > > Yes, this is a regular problem which is unavoidable : > what should the default be ? -- I want the default to be > what it's always been & what matches basic UNIX principles. > I can add 'suid' to 'xorg-server' in package.use , > but why should I have to ? -- over to you for a rationale (smile). I am not sure what kind of UNIX principles you're speaking about, the default should be reasonable, running X as root is not, if someone want to go against common sense and run X as root, he can do so, with defaults to not run it as root. -- Piotr.
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