On Wed, 20 May 2020 00:21:37 -0700 Alec Warner wrote:

>On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 1:23 AM Lars Wendler <polynomia...@gentoo.org>
>wrote:
>
>> Hi Alec,
>>
>> On Mon, 18 May 2020 18:42:24 -0700 Alec Warner wrote:
>>
>> >TL;DR: What if we launched id.gentoo.org, an identity provider that
>> >provides authentication for Gentoo properties? Basically, 1
>> >username / password for wiki, bugs, email, forums, and any other
>> >http service[0][1].
>> >
>> >Today Gentoo has numerous systems that mostly work in a segmented
>> >way.
>> >
>> > - To connect to hosts, we use ssh keys.
>> > - Git is authenticated via ssh keys.
>> > - Email uses LDAP passwords.
>> > - Bugzilla has its own identities, with their own passwords.
>> > - Wiki is separate, with its own passwords.
>> > - Forums are separate.
>> > - Infra has an additional 4 systems that use separate credentials.
>> >
>> >Some applications support 2FA (such as wiki.)
>> >Some applications do not support 2FA.
>> >Applications that require 2FA have a configuration for each app, so
>> >you have N configurations.
>> >
>> >If we configured id.gentoo.org you would have 1 identity across all
>> >gentoo properties.
>> >
>> >Is this a thing people are interested in?
>> >
>> >[0] It's unlikely operations for git via ssh would change in this
>> >rollout. [1] Its unclear if the scope is "gentoo developers" or "any
>> >community member." The former have LDAP accounts and @gentoo.org
>> >email addresses and so we can manage them easily; managing 1000s of
>> >other accounts in the IDP remains to be seem.
>>
>> In case 2FA won't be mandatory I find this a good idea.
>>
>
>2FA is definitely a reason to deploy software like keycloak, but in the
>first rollout I don't expect to enforce 2FA. Ideally we would deploy
>the U2F support in keycloak and then, similar to our earlier program,
>offer discounted or free u2f devices for Gentoo developers; this would
>likely be on a 1-2 year timeframe.
>
>Is there some reason you don't want to use 2FA?
>
>-A

Well, I haven't found any 2FA solution that isn't a PITA to use.
Especially Nitrokey is not easily useable for 2FA. And having some OTP
or U2F software on my mobile phone is a no-go.
I know about the value of 2FA and I use it in some places but I find it
not being the perfect solution for everything. 

>>
>> Kind regards
>> --
>> Lars Wendler
>> Gentoo package maintainer
>> GPG: 21CC CF02 4586 0A07 ED93  9F68 498F E765 960E 9B39
>>


Cheers
-- 
Lars Wendler
Gentoo package maintainer
GPG: 21CC CF02 4586 0A07 ED93  9F68 498F E765 960E 9B39

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