On 2019-12-05 04:06, William Hubbs wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 05, 2019 at 03:56:05AM +0100, Thomas Deutschmann wrote:
>> On 2019-12-05 01:15, Aaron Bauman wrote:
>>> * Removal in 30 days
>>
>> Why? I understand that Py2 will reach EOL upstream status but we all
>> know that Py2 will *not* disappear and stop working in 26 days...
>>
>> There's no reason to mask/remove currently known working software.
>>
>> net-nntp/sabnzbd is a perfect example. Up to date in repository and working.

First, this was just an example.

For sabnzbd I know that upstream is working on Py3 support. It will
happen somewhere in 2020...

I expect this for most software still in use.

My point was a general note: I don't understand why we should rush and
kick out software without Py3 support *yet* when Py2 is still a thing.
Sure, we will reach the point when Py2 is only needed by 1-2 packages
and at this point we can start discussing to drop them including entire
Py2 support. But this will take 1-2 years...

I mean: OpenSSL-1.0.2x will go EOL on 2019-12-31... I don't see us
masking <openssl-1.1.x before that date or even months later. It will
still be around for quite some time...

And I think same is true for Py2.

There's also an important difference: Thanks to our Python
implementation, you can set your system to use Py3 by default for
everything but still keep a slotted Py2 around for stuff which wasn't
ported yet. That's not possible for OpenSSL-1.0.2x for example...


> Are you volunteering to maintain it or open an upstream bug and askthem
> to move to py3?

...and sometimes I am also just a user. I cannot maintain all software I
use :-)


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