On 07/02/17 12:00 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 10:14 AM, Ian Stakenvicius <a...@gentoo.org> wrote: >> On 07/02/17 08:27 AM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: >>> >>> The thread wasn't about discouraging IUSE defaults, rather to decide >>> when they are appropriate. You cannot omit "pkginternal" from USE_ORDER, >>> because you will break all of the packages whose defaults are either >>> critical to the package, or prevent a REQUIRED_USE conflict. >>> >> >> OK, can we all decide out of this thread, that if any package is >> enabling critical functionality via IUSE-defaults (or rather, IUSE >> defaults alone), that this be addressed through package.use.force in >> profiles OR through removal of the flag? > > No. >
Do we need to define "critical functionality" first, then? >> >> That at least seems like a positive first step to helping address >> Michael's concerns, and should generally help all end-users. >> > > It only helps users who want to manually enable every single feature > they use with an otherwise-minimal configuration. Actually the way I see it, it helps support a USE="-*" case by not disabling something that, although enabled via IUSE-defaults, probably shouldn't be a flag (or should only be disable'able on certain platforms or profiles) Example -- USE="jit" on mozilla packages (prior it to being removed completely, that is, which started with 51.0). That flag was IUSE-default-enabled, but realistically it should have probably been package.use.force'd except on platforms (ia64,etc) and profiles (hardened) where it doesn't work or provide what is expected from users of those profiles.
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