-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 04/12/16 21:21, Daniel Campbell wrote: > How would we ensure (or encourage) that other distros based on > Gentoo would follow this practice? Adding things to PMS isn't a > panacea, sure, but from what I can tell it seems the goal here is > to allow distros based on us to correctly *show* that without > changing hundreds of lines in the package tree. Maybe that's > outside of PMS; if so, where does this belong?
I would hope people would consult base/make.defaults and write their own, which would lead them towards the variables they need to set. However, there was a fair amount of legwork I had to do and find out with good old trial-by-error when I was writing one. > Of course, this solution requires action/patching on our behalf as > well, but it seems like a long-term goal that, when completed, may > be suitable for addition in some sort of standard document, even if > it's a wiki page on how to roll your own distro based on us. I have plenty of experience with that and I would be more than willing to help write such a page if that is desired. > It didn't seem to me that there was any intention to automatically > guess which distro it is; the people in charge of each distro's > package tree should be setting those variables to the correct > value, and it should be accessible throughout the tree(s). The original intention wasn't to guess, but I see how PMS is more for things that are determined at run-time by the package manager rather than static variables. > As OP mentioned, at worst it does nothing until it 'spreads' > throughout the tree. The end result is anyone could fork us, change > DISTRO and DISTRO_BUG_URL, and instantly have a starting point for > their new distro. I'm not aware of any other distro that would make > forking or spinning off _this_ easy. That could turn into renewed > interest in Gentoo or possibly even better inter-distro relations, > since bugs would be going to the correct places. That is one of the main goals of the proposal. I feel that Gentoo is missing out on major contributions because it's so difficult for people in other distros to provide the patches they write. Making spins easier is a definite bonus, and results in more contributions. > To OP: This idea looks good to me; do you have any proofs of > concept for use in common places like ebuilds, metadata.xml (if you > intend for it to be used there), etc? If we had a more visual idea > of how it worked, maybe more people would understand and have an > idea of where to put it if it doesn't fit in with PMS's scope. I have some basic stuff that showed this idea was feasible before I sent it on, but I don't have anything public yet. I can start with a branch (as mentioned in thread) and go from there. Best, - --arw - -- A. Wilcox (awilfox) Project Lead, Adélie Linux http://adelielinux.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJYROwTAAoJEMspy1GSK50U6ZEP/2fFOOc1TsABI0lMjE8RFbgM Jl6c9GGfQJokCQHTTHVOGyUhtDzRztcj3RSOtC5Xopshhj73kPZ+uLkMAhL5jl+6 hQbC6tTYdu6Jqw6ompvqNuaWONnyYfEY8j/fkkop+8YCKZ12rOXD/LtLwaXUMANr OZP5RDX889q7ZYuel8P7TuyYWK4/F+oVc3T7AOzlPNy68sEAi/L4sGMLupr/geR/ dhPYrC/OSAx2A5zhKfpZCbmm+7fHm0tS3r2SpirTJz2+2fYzbrNbVIE2k5TvMUK3 /dJFzw41W1S8xhebqJoHxslXW5NU6Sj1i7rTMPRHD1jEeuN/nhh29eVt33XIOexi 8G957fie/g5EM3+zcxUCgn+8CSzcCmfgAwUA4MmXgMhqBibk9ZXt7ZlA85WjCQFP fojVOCgWaNJn9RZjIL9V3UiN4Qjv5kv/m8wjfsH7vwb6DlZ4Kc9NUOVhe2wogNyw W6WOmnOepolhOlmtB8j9fgKRui9aTU9NO6fhSOXqwvTDn0RzHrELsiGUUNFqjvr2 LE74uJcy7qDtVgCHS6ZRV6YMm9V3L2jPmafS3JfOcY9mA7sZHqR9cW1EF4wpMIAC eUKDRAG6SwyshZzDJL7V2RmQt64M51diujOQn5M12U8ByQhA5aFnpddIBo+Vbk01 Vg2w69y3HcV4HLU5/2zC =g8bj -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
