On Fri, 8 Jul 2016 10:11:45 -0500 William Hubbs wrote: > I'm starting a new thread so this will be a completely separate > discussion. > > On Fri, Jul 08, 2016 at 05:56:04PM +0300, Andrew Savchenko wrote: > > On Fri, 8 Jul 2016 10:42:14 -0400 Rich Freeman wrote: > > > On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 10:30 AM, Anthony G. Basile <bluen...@gentoo.org> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Also there's some debate in IRC about whether or not these packages > > > > should be lastrited or dropped to maintainer-needed. These forks are > > > > not in good shape upstream, so I think it makes better sense to > > > > p.mask/lastrite and then move them to the graveyard overlay when I > > > > remove them from the tree in 30 days. > > > > > > > > > > IMO the criteria should be whether they work or not. Not whether > > > upstream is more or less active. > > > > > > If they're blockers on other work, by all means cull them. However, > > > if the biggest problem with them is that they're using a few inodes in > > > the repo, then they should probably stay. > > > > +1 > > > > Best regards, > > Andrew Savchenko > > There is also an overlay for packages that are removed from the official > tree [1], and imo that is where old software should go if it doesn't > have an active maintainer. > > I don't know why we haven't been using this, but using it more than we > have makes a lot of sense.
When software is in the main tree, it is a subject of tree-wide changes like GLEP 67 update, package moves and so on. In a separated overlay it will be completely abandoned and it may create inter-overlay dependencies issues (e.g. when A is an old package from the tree and package B from some overlay depends on A, so if A will move to graveyard, B will be broken). I completely do not understand why having "old" software in tree is a problem, if such software have no serious issues and is not blocking major progress. If software _is_ sufficiently broken, then indeed move it to graveyard. As I said yesterday on IRC, one of the greatest virtues of Gentoo is its ample spectra of packages available in the main tree. I do not understand why it should be killed for nothing. Best regards, Andrew Savchenko
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