On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 8:35 AM, hasufell <hasuf...@gentoo.org> wrote:

> On 09/10/2015 03:10 PM, Rich Freeman wrote:
> > On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 8:53 AM, hasufell <hasuf...@gentoo.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> So we are breaking consistency and introduce maintenance and
> >> configuration complexity, because we want to support a corner case that
> >> isn't consistently supported anyway and will not be (because that's what
> >> the gnome team said and most upstream maintainers do).
> >>
> >> You'd actually have to start forking upstream projects if you are
> >> serious about this.
> >
> > Again, I'm saying that maintainers should be free to support multiple
> > versions if they wish to do so.  They should not be required to do so.
> > And yes, I do realize that this limits options for users, but they're
> > welcome to proxy-maintain packages that do support the versions they
> > wish to use.  If they want to fork upstream they're even welcome to do
> > that, but obviously that isn't going to happen often.
> >
> > I just don't think we should be in the business of saying "no" here.
>
> Again, your proposed use case is
> 1) imaginary
> 2) currently impossible to support, because there are lots of
> applications which either force gtk3 in the ebuild or have only gtk3
> supported upstream. It will be pretty much impossible to not have gtk3
> installed or loaded into RAM, unless you don't use a DE in the first
> place and stick to terminals.
>
> >
> >>
> >> I think a lot of people just go wild when they see configure switches
> >> and stuff everything into USE flags without really considering the
> >> impact or the usefulness.
> >>
> >> It's not all about choice, it's also about sanity.
> >>
> >
> > And again, I'm just saying to leave it up to the maintainer.
>
> If this affects tree consistency and usability, then it is not just up
> to the maintainers.


There are lots of topics where I concede that QA has a point and can
utilize its influence; but 'consistency and usability' are not topics I
would normally expect them to impose on developers.

-A

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