-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 On 09/11/2014 07:30 PM, Tom Wijsman wrote: > On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 21:21:24 +0100 Markos Chandras > <hwoar...@gentoo.org> wrote: > >> On 09/10/2014 03:01 PM, Tom Wijsman wrote: >>> >>> +1; to summarize my thoughts: Herds misrepresent manpower. >>> >> true and false. > > More true than false. > >> undertakers often remove dead herds. > > How often? What is considered dead? How about semi-dead? How about > the misrepresented ones? Are metrics like commit and bug ratios > considered? > > Relevant: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/gentoo/dev/258463 > >> And herds in need for more people should really make use of this >> wiki page >> >> https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Gentoo/Staffing_Needs > > They do and don't. > > Those that do, are drowned in a long list that rarely attracts new > devs; those that don't, don't have time for it as they are drowned > in work. > > The recruitment process is too lengthy compared to the amount of > people that can actively recruit new developers; as a result, this > contributes to the rarity of attracting new developers to that > list. > > This lengthy process is also unattractive to new recruiters; whom > are not kept in the loop when showing interest, eg. I've watched a > few sessions and then heard nothing (because there barely are > recruiters?). > > If we want to thrive, both the student and recruiter recruitment > processes need to be revised; at this moment, 13 students are in > the queue. Some of them have been waiting for weeks or months... > >> how do you expect to get more people on board if you don't make >> it known where help is actually needed? > > This acknowledges that the herds concept hides where help is > needed; but as revealed in the last paragraphs, that's not the only > problem. >
please do not go offtopic discussing the recruitment process. I simply mentioned one of the designated ways we have to ask for help. If you don't like it, propose a better method. - -- Regards, Markos Chandras -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQF8BAEBCgBmBQJUEf9QXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXRGRDlGMzA4MUI2MzBDODQ4RDBGOEYxMjQx RjEwRUQ0QjgxREVCRjE5AAoJEB8Q7UuB3r8Z5S4H/RzX++Z/slhMjpYwGqu4zA1P DgByLHnINhQPFpNYIxfgvAFCjVp+drCllRvzvE3IdCdfR1HsLUYeLNMDby8SQlAr axHklrtQGeSXK9rd9leYvfa/lCzNahFj5PWbPeJFco1j7V7BDJCYKS1FxQpQhAyg H5MiBFDRZK403qt8U4JsOCGEpI5Uy+US+xTAXHTV0u0YKW0u8S/znju6TM2WVWy2 qFTTQvH4vNf38zj6+UVzFa16xw5wYeIajMHLm7cTg98pDU4UcVEbeeZ0vEUX6DS8 XSlGO93haF9E4v4giMaQXXHtRmJzhHXdx78mnir4u1tdIfqG3Q8bjGnNVmu7GWU= =UyIv -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
