On Sat, 26 Jul 2014 14:25:23 +0000 (UTC) Martin Vaeth <mar...@mvath.de> wrote:
> Tom Wijsman <tom...@gentoo.org> wrote: > > Michael Palimaka <kensing...@gentoo.org> wrote: > > > >> What a great way to kill the distro. > >> > >> I can already heat my house with the number of unnecessary rebuilds > > > > Do you upgrade @world every hour and thus have it cause excessive > > heat? > > > > If I upgrade every X weeks they become much more cool and > > necessary... > > One of the main advantages of gentoo is the flowing upgrade, > especially since this can only be very poorly emulated by > a binary distro. > > If you really suggest that the user waits one month and > then recompiles the whole installation, you give up > this advantage of gentoo: The user is not up-to-date > for a long time, and moreover, then needs practically > a full reinstall; both are things which he wants to avoid > and why perhaps he has chosen gentoo in the first place. > > At least, for me it is the case: if I have to reinstall > all packages every months - and even have delay in security > updates for a month - I will certainly switch the > distribution. I guess many others think similarly. Simple equation: The more frequent the user updates, the more frequent the user will experience the minor inconveniences by upstream and distribution maintainers. Otherwise we'd be using a 9999-only system. Dynamic deps, as well as rev bumps, alter this equation; the problem with that is that such alterations don't come free and without flaws, which is essentially where you get to reconsider how you alter it. In a similar way the user has to reconsider whether updating less is acceptable compared to compiling an occasional inconvenience. Choosing between a stable and non-stable tree is a big gap of difference in convenience, choosing how often you update is fine tuning. To get the idea: "Upstream released W.X.Y.Z+1; it was only yesterday I've compiled W.X.Y.Z, turns out the difference is not so important." Agreed that this can very well be an important security update; but if you go back to the equation, that still is a minor inconvenience. PS: Not suggesting 1 month; but rather that updating not enough, or too much, can make one experience serious effects that such choices imply. -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D
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