On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 07:44:57PM -0400, Anthony G. Basile wrote: > On 07/30/14 17:18, Joseph Jezak wrote: > > On 07/30/2014 06:26 AM, Anthony G. Basile wrote: > >> On 07/29/14 22:16, Jack Morgan wrote: > >>> On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 04:29:51PM -0400, Anthony G. Basile wrote: > >>>> On 07/26/14 09:44, Pacho Ramos wrote: > >>>>> El sáb, 26-07-2014 a las 09:37 -0400, Anthony G. Basile escribió: > >>>>>> On 07/26/14 09:28, Pacho Ramos wrote: > >>>>>>> El sáb, 26-07-2014 a las 14:55 +0200, Andreas K. Huettel escribió: > >>>>>>>> Am Samstag, 26. Juli 2014, 13:56:02 schrieb Pacho Ramos: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I guess we will need to wait for the next Council to > >>>>>>>>> officially decide > >>>>>>>>> to do this as it will be a big change for ppc* users :/ (I > >>>>>>>>> remember > >>>>>>>>> their action was needed for the move to testing of some arches > >>>>>>>>> and the > >>>>>>>>> "package-by-package" proposal for others) > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Also, I am not sure if any other arch teams (sparc, ia64?) > >>>>>>>>> would want to > >>>>>>>>> get this policy too :| (I got ppc* because this concrete case ;)) > >>>>>>>> At first this is an arch team decision. No need for the council. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> (Given that in this case there is a responsive and addressable > >>>>>>>> arch team...) > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Andreas K. Huettel > >>>>>>>> Gentoo Linux developer > >>>>>>>> dilfri...@gentoo.org > >>>>>>>> http://www.akhuettel.de/ > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> The problem is that blueness looks to be the only member currently > >>>>>>> replying :/, I have checked their page and I see no team lead or > >>>>>>> similar. Then, I am not sure how to get the ok to proceed or not > >>>>>>> :| (to > >>>>>>> prevent this from getting stalled and we keep trying stabilizing > >>>>>>> all the > >>>>>>> things). > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I remember from older thread (one related with udev > >>>>>>> stabilization), that > >>>>>>> blueness was also the only one replying. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> Yeah, not having a clear lead is a problem. No one wants to just > >>>>>> make a > >>>>>> big decision on behalf of the team without making sure everyone > >>>>>> is on > >>>>>> board. Pacho, do you have access to timberdoodle? If so, join both > >>>>>> teams and just take the initiative and let any other "claimants" > >>>>>> step > >>>>>> forward now. BTW, taking the lead doesn't mean doing all the work > >>>>>> yourself. I want to see ppc/ppc64 in good shape. I'll be happy to > >>>>>> write scripts to do the demoting to ~ etc etc. > >>>>>> > >>>>> I don't even know about timberdoodle :( > >>>>> > >>>>> I forwarded the mail to both alias (as I forgot first time), then, > >>>>> hopefully they will review it :/ > >>>>> > >>>>> Will CC them again to this just now with this link to allow all to > >>>>> read > >>>>> the full thread: > >>>>> http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/92151 > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> I think its clear who cares about ppc/ppc64. If there are no > >>>> objections, I'll take the lead of those teams and see this plan > >>>> through. I'll wait a few days for people to voice concerns. Then I'll > >>>> start by generating a list of all stable and testing packages on > >>>> ppc and > >>>> ppc64. I'll post then and then continue the conversation on just the > >>>> ppc and ppc64 lists. Don't worry, I won't start dropping to ~ > >>>> until we > >>>> have a concise plan and we're all on board. > >>> I don't think you can/should just take over the leadership of an > >>> arch. > >>> Why not have meeting/discussion for team members. Especially since you > >>> are proposing such a big change. > >>> > >>> > >>> Thanks, > >>> > >> > >> Okay, any members of the ppc team please speak up. I'll wait a week. > >> > > I'm still trying to escape from grad school and getting married this > > fall, so my contributions have been limited at best, which is why I've > > been shying away from throwing in my two cents. That said, while I'd > > rather not just remove stable keywords until there's a reason, I have > > no problem with dropping keywords for stuff that is holding up > > stabilization bugs if that's what it takes for things to move forward. > > If you'd like to have a meeting about it, that's fine too. > > > > -Joe > > > > Sure, let's meet. I'd like to have jmorgan come too and any other > ppc/ppc64 members. How does Monday Aug 4 at 20:00 UTC sound to people. > If not please counter propose a time. This sounds fine for me. I'll be there. I've been away for a few months but getting back to helping out. If the current lead isn't active, then we should have a vote as to who should take over that role. Then discuss how to proceed with the topics in this thread.
Thanks for organizing this. Cheers,` -- Jack Morgan Pub 4096R/761D8E0A 2010-09-13 Jack Morgan <jmor...@gentoo.org>> Fingerprint = DD42 EA48 D701 D520 C2CD 55BE BF53 C69B 761D 8E0A
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