Hello With last gnome maintained packages stabilization round I noticed some pending stabilizations/keywordings for really a long time waiting for ppc* teams. For example: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=470768 -> it's waiting for more than a year and it's blocking from dropping old versions for so long https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=508006 -> the same case, and we cannot drop that stable keywords because looks like ppc team still wants to keep kde in stable
Then, I finally needed to ask Agostino for help because of that and I wondered if there are some kind of issue in this teams, if they are still able to keep ppc* as stable arches or... :/ I see two options: - Move ppc* to testing only -> I guess some people will disagree as this architecture is not so old and probably it's still used by enough people - Clarify what packages do they really want in stable. The problem of all this is that, as it is shown in this concrete example, if they want to keep, for example, KDE in stable, they will need to also be fast enough for other dependencies. If not, we could go with the "package-per-package" proposal that was approved one year ago by the Council for alpha/ia64. But the problem of "package-per-package" proposal is shown in: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=470768#c9 Once we start dropping stable keyword in one package, we need to do the same in reverse-deps, that will also have other reverse-deps... and that it ends up being a lot of work arch teams cannot accomplish (as they are the same teams that are so overloaded that cannot keep stabilizing fast enough) and things get blocked forever :( That is the reason for me thinking that maybe the way to go would be to do the opposite -> keep only base-system and a few others stable and drop stable for most of the rest. This big effort could be accomplished in a week by other developers willing to help (like me) and would solve the issue for the long term. I guess that is what HPPA team did in the past and I think it's working pretty well for them (in summary, have a stable tree they are able to keep stable). That will also help people in ppc* teams to know that the remaining stabilization bugs, apart of being much less, are important enough to deserve rapid attention, as opposed to current situation that will have some important bugs mixed with tons of stabilization requests of apps that got ppc stable keywords years ago and are currently no so important. Thanks a lot
