On Saturday, May 31, 2014 02:17:32 PM Samuli Suominen wrote: > On 31/05/14 05:47, Steven J. Long wrote: > > On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 09:57:01AM +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote: > >> On 27/05/14 08:34, Michał Górny wrote: > >>> Dnia 2014-05-26, o godz. 23:15:34 > >>> > >>> Samuli Suominen <ssuomi...@gentoo.org> napisał(a): > >>>> UPower upstream removed sys-power/pm-utils support from 0.99 release > >>>> (currently unkeyworded in tree), as in, from current git master. > >>> > >>> Don't worry. Looking at the past, I can guess this is only a temporary > >>> inconvenience. I'm pretty sure upower will be discontinued soon > >>> and replaced with systemd-powerd or something :D. > >> > >> That's more or less what they already did, they forced eg. > >> xfce4-power-manager upstream > >> to move the deleted pm-utils code from upower directly to the power > >> manager (application) > >> itself, likewise for xfce4-session > >> Which means applications will now need to duplicate the pm-utils related > >> code per application > >> basis > >> So I expect upower to be more or less dead for everything but systemd > >> users, except for > >> those upstreams that will actually follow the Xfce path and do the > >> duplication > >> Yet, still, small portition of the code is still 'generic', so > >> xfce4-power-manager will still need > >> both, upower, even 0.99, and then pm-utils, depending on the version, > >> codepath is selected > >> > >> This was sort of expected, since pm-utils has been abandoned for ~5 > >> years now at upstream, > >> so nobody is maintaining non-systemd related power management tools > >> anymore, and > >> falling back to eg. manual laptop-mode-tools, acpid, etc. usage will be > >> necessary again, > >> it's like going back to 90s for non-systemd users :P > > > > I can't believe I'm reading that from a distro-developer. Basically this > > entire thread is "systemd is deprecating the existing tools, so let's dump > > them and half our userbase back to the 90s, isn't that a great thing?" > > Then you misunderstood. Notice the ":P" as an indicator of sarcasm. > I've already created sys-power/upower-pm-utils where the sys-power/pm-utils > 0.9 git branch will continue to live.
Would have been nice to fix all the dependencies BEFORE marking the systemd- depending "sys-power/upower-pm-utils" stable. -- Joost
