On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 15:50:34 +0200
Jeroen Roovers <j...@gentoo.org> wrote:

> On Sun, 20 Oct 2013 14:30:56 +0200
> Tom Wijsman <tom...@gentoo.org> wrote:
> 
> There is no "instead".

Why is there no "instead"?

> The default policy (did you read the devmanual yet?)

Which policy are you referring to? (Did you refer me to anything?)

> is to DROP KEYWORDS (and let arch teams re-add them)

Which is what I exactly did for the USE flags on most of the arches;
and a bug was planned to be filed, such that they can decide on it.

> -unless- that is really cumbersome (when you need to drop more and
> more keywords as a result).

Please do not make additional exceptions, we have enough of them.

> Since you don't seem to get why this is. Let me give you an example.
> 
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> Minor Arch User: I want cat-more/pkg with USE=foo but I can't enable
> it. Why is USE=interesting masked?
> Minor Arch Dev: I don't know. Let me look it up.
> Minor Arch Dev: Ah, it's in
> profiles/default/linux/somearch/package.use.mask:
> # Some Package Maintainer <some@package.maintainer> (1 Jan 1970)
> # dev-libs/interesting not keyworded so disabling, kthxbye
> cat-more/pkg interesting
> Minor Arch Dev: Apparently it was put there a long time ago. It has no
> bug reference and I can't find a ChangeLog entry. Oh wait, it's
> mentioned in profiles/ChangeLog-1971 but with the same uninformative
> text.

Right; bug reference added, I see no other problem here.

> Minor Arch User: So what do I need to do?
> Minor Arch Dev: Er, you write an entry
> in /etc/portage/profile/package.keywords for the dev-libs/interesting
> package (make sure to put the ~arch or '**', yeah?), and another entry
> in /etc/portage/profile/package.use.mask with the same entry as
> package.use.mask (but with the sign of the USE flag inverted, right?).

Whether you change package.keywords twice or change both once; it
doesn't result in a difference in effort, I do not see your point here.

> Then when you have successfully re-emerged cat-more/pkg with
> USE=interesting, send me a new bug report so we can start removing the
> bitrot from the arch profile and keywording stuff properly.

Why file a duplicate bug?

> (Several portage configuration explanations and bug hunts later.)

For what?

> (Minor Arch User exits stage left having gained happy happy support
> for "interesting" in his pkg.)
> Minor Arch Dev: O, if only the keyword had been dropped at the time,
> and two more keywords had been re-added to cat-more/pkg and
> dev-libs/interesting at the time, none of this would have been needed.
> Mercy!
> (Minor Arch Dev drinks the poison and drops to the floor)

Two entries will continue to be two entries; so, I do not see where the
difference in work comes from. Can you now please explain the exception?

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> 
> 
>      jer
> 

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With kind regards,

Tom Wijsman (TomWij)
Gentoo Developer

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