Am Mittwoch, 25. September 2013, 11:05:24 schrieb Ian Stakenvicius: > On 25/09/13 10:51 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 10:09 AM, Ian Stakenvicius <a...@gentoo.org> > > > > wrote: > >> William, I think what Tom was mentioning here is that he thinks > >> a one-sentence answering the "Why" would be a good idea to have > >> in the news item, so users that don't have a clue on all of these > >> sep-/usr issues will get an idea of why the change is being > >> made. > > > > How about something like: Due to many upstream changes properly > > supporting a separate /usr without an initramfs has become > > increasingly difficult - despite all our efforts it already breaks > > in some exotic configurations, and this is a trend likely to grow > > worse. > > > > Rich > > How about changing "[properly] supporting a separate /usr without an > initramfs" to "supporting a system with /usr missing at boot time" ? > More generic, indicates the actual problem better. Otherwise sounds > great to me.
Maybe some links to articles that explain *why* the so called "UsrMerge" was needed/done would be a good idea. I have a feeling that many people (still) think a separate /usr partition would be something they needed badly, and that it is all Lennards fault (and his wrecked systemd project) that a separate /usr /suddenly/ needs an initrd. In fact, only really rare cornercases (*) actually *need* a separate /usr partition, and none can't live with an initrd. The most prominent sites would be, I believe, https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/UsrMove/ and http://http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/TheCaseForTheUsrMerge/ with references to http://http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/separate-usr-is-broken/ ? Don't understand me wrong, please. I have always worked with a separate /usr partition, and was extremely pissed off when, all of a sudden, I was told that I'd need an initrd to support it further. My thoughts where a bit like: "/But why? I need, that! It is highly useful, because .... because ... erm.. (no idea...) ... Because I've *always* used it that way!/" In the end I found absolutely no reason for _not_ merging /usr into / and did it. Result: No initrd and one partition less to take care of. I have never had any disadvantage by that merge over a year ago on all my machines. And then I took a closer look at all servers (debian, ranging from Sarge over Lenny to Squeeze) at my workplace, and none ever even had a separate /usr. Cheers Sven (*): Like /usr over NFS
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