-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 10 Aug 2013 00:32:08 +0100 Mike Auty <ike...@gentoo.org> wrote:
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 09/08/13 21:32, Tom Wijsman wrote: > > On Sat, 10 Aug 2013 03:11:55 +0800 Ben de Groot <yng...@gentoo.org> > > wrote: > > > >> On 9 August 2013 21:57, Michał Górny <mgo...@gentoo.org> wrote: > >>> This one is *so special* just because we have a few folks > >>> which really have nothing useful to do and instead spit their > >>> systemd hatred on gentoo-dev@ and expect others to join their > >>> stupid vendetta. > >> > >> Please keep your insults off this list. You may want to deny > >> them, but there are valid reasons why people oppose systemd. It > >> doesn't help to keep so aggressively pushing it. > > > > Neither does it help to make statements like "People are free to > > use a saner desktop environment..." which add nothing to the > > discussion, which in fact can be seen as an insult as well; because > > "sane" basically stands for "free from mental derangement" or "free > > from being unreasonably, unsound judgment or bad sense" where both > > come close to what people will perceive as the negative form of > > "stupid". > > I'm not sure where you're quoting from, it doesn't appear to have been > the thread Ben was commenting on. http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/87206 > I'm glad someone stepped in and said something, Michael's comments > appeared overly aggressive, as they would have even if the word hatred > had read agenda. I'm not sure why there were so many rebuttals of his > request to keep things civil. It wasn't a statement for or against > systemd, it was a request to maintain a hospitable environment... We're on the same line for that part. Note that I do not disagree with Ben's request, thus did not re[bf]ute; I wanted to point out why people that try to construct were annoyed. If he then makes such request it doesn't help that he did a similar thing earlier himself, therefore I am making the same request back to him. In a conflict, there are always two sides; in order to maintain a hospitable environment, both sides have to make an effort to reach that. So, both sides calling things more sane or more hateful is not civil... - -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.20 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJSBYNvAAoJEJWyH81tNOV9ltgH/0wO7hjA3+cnkuZGyaqEBHN4 iQL9ZDuASegxIMkg1D4k9AZ+kZDqYPwRNL07nsvQRZNceXEtc3sOx0AeLb/pcDe7 GZHR7S30ACvo9U/Fj6Bgd/FeQulyQ4ztfUJRKBTa9JRp+iBn8Y8HuxC88MARXtTN Qaptxq1JpaOa69AvotuybH35DgW9SsiHcpQgP1j8JnU0ykev4uCk4KFpy6SwB9Sa oAFF3VLsXivZdZeh1EomtaoDngQkCCU2eAftDEwUEfDL4RQ3U1LvcztT5mn5UB6p ntgD/mHWeLPWVuLMInanet6O/8bIeaLyed6yW3OsFFkslIfzYik9vX6aGq4oKTw= =yAvQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----