Zac Medico posted on Wed, 01 May 2013 08:01:45 -0700 as excerpted:

> On 05/01/2013 07:46 AM, Mike Gilbert wrote:

>> I think it is time to consider enabling [preserve-libs] by default.
>> Hopefully any ABI bumps will be accompanied by a
>> subslot / slot-operator migration at this point.
> 
> Yeah, I'm pretty happy with the slot-operator adoption, so it feels like
> it's about time to enable preserve-libs by default in stable. I know
> that this feature has been questioned by some, especially by people
> involved with Paludis (which doesn't implement preserve-libs). Maybe it
> would be a good idea to get an opinion from the council on whether or
> not it should be enabled by default in stable portage.

FWIW I've been running 2.2 (and won't touch paludis with a 3 metre pole) 
for some time, but turned preserved-libs off here because it simply 
complicates things for me.  After some early issues with "too much magic" 
re preserved-libs (possibly long since fixed but I wouldn't know as I 
have the feature turned off), I originally would rather let the upgrades 
happen as they always did and simply run revdep-rebuild afterward, and 
preserved-libs interfered with that as the libs were still there so 
revdep-rebuild didn't find anything to rebuild.

Of course with sub-slots "doing it the 'correct' way" revdep-rebuild 
isn't finding so much to rebuild anymore, anyway, so like most people I 
think, I'm a big subslots fan, but that doesn't mean I trust preserved-
libs any more than I did.

But I've no objection to preserved-libs becoming the default and while 
it's not for me personally, I'm cautiously in favor of the idea as a 
default, as long as it remains a togglable feature.

While I /am/ cautiously in favor, I definitely believe running it by 
council is a good idea, as it should help put to bed any remaining 
controversy over the idea.  Neither the formal "speak now or forever hold 
your peace" aspect nor the CYA and "it's voted and settled now, don't 
reopen the topic unless there's GOOD reason" a council blessing provides 
can be a bad thing. =:^)

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