-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 11/25/2012 10:51 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina > <zeroch...@gentoo.org> wrote: >> If you horribly break my package, you may hear about it, but you >> certainly won't get yelled at for fixing my bugs or bumping a package. > > While I think there is a balance to be found, keep in mind that you as > the developer aren't the only person impacted if somebody breaks a > package you maintain. Perhaps your users would prefer that people > with less experience with the package not fiddle with it. The developer fiddling with it needs to be confident they know what they are doing (or at least have discussed it with more experienced developers) before they "fiddle" with my packages. My open invitation for help should not be mistaken for an open invitation to experiment with my packages. > > If a package has a responsive maintainer, then pinging them isn't > really much of a hurdle. If the package doesn't have a responsive > maintainer, then perhaps that should be fixed. The problem is what of people like me, some weeks I'm very responsive (seconds to minutes) while other times I'm away from a computer for the entire week with no warning. I don't want people waiting to fix something easy because they are being polite to me. As you said, what of my users? Do they feel it's good to "wait a week" (something I hear all the time) for a simple fix simply because no one could reach me? I think not. > > I'm not saying that there shouldn't be some way for maintainers to > indicate when they're willing to allow others to touch packages > without asking. I'm just saying that this isn't purely a matter of > maintainer preference, or territorialism.
There shouldn't need to be a way for maintainers to indicate they are willing to allow others to touch packages without asking, in my opinion this should be the norm. Again, no one should be randomly experimenting with someone else's packages without asking, but fixes for obvious or even non-obvious issues should be WELCOMED by all devs. If you have a bug on bugzie that is more than a week old and it affects me, you can bet I will fix it and the notification you get will be the one from me closing your bug. If you have an issue with that maybe you should fix your own bugs. When I say things like that I've had other devs "threaten" to find and file bugs in my packages and then fix those bugs without asking me. Really? Pretty please! If you see something I've missed you are welcome to 1.) file a bug 2.) fix the bug if I'm not (nearly) immediately responsive to assist. I think this practice (overall) will improve Gentoo for our users, and at the end of the day that's the only thing that matters, not my ego. Thanks, Zero PS> If you need an explicit "you are permitted to touch my packages" then here it is, signed with my gpg key and everything. Find my bugs, fix my bugs, try really hard not to break things. Thanks for your help. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJQslukAAoJEKXdFCfdEflKo/EQAKD4SNghLvMrEiNnEztnKbFu pKCcSMReTlsnXbFiO4itrI9KqgwdKCh4kGLfza1pSU6OEkVWM9H0vC1N/E0drFpL at2MYEQF8qW4xKebDV0NCzmTDxjvDtx5/XQVSmp53Xi4XWb0FWd2X2mn1I+frm/i uHYlsUKwF6852/605k2+h3Z++svc4UBR7V63XNY0wsgOYsJlmrFg1fQxLCCgcGUS qFhgMT+bgYUh5gceJwCtHomHdxN/D+In1ILZWwHwWalyNSg/nDN7sZrGde+5dSZ5 9MkBL/NqxaSwTsYUX0xly0/52QDVrNVEMJBN8rxcMT83Cw/w7yoNoBaa/nEmtlej /UK9mOYE/+fNNWVOERiOv4t3YTvdq6B5kP+xAeG+P3jEq54U43mK/fEAH1chPRQG j4dMuSWAGuMgiAzbdVwfK2OawB1z321V8JzsUHb7P91javqjlP1GHPWAE95+PMZn 6mEAGXrRGmUpyC/ihZnsjhMdg1n8SLf6V1HIMvGxXEbiY22vFf7PcYP7bkWvSOyP 9EiKLB3d1Cu0lfo75telmrCBRBndrziD+UAe9C0fSjizxGK2tsE+kivZZ9yf+vS+ BrtGNtRiH9Je2ugakgpjgFrVjbAPmqUQqGshWuEqBQOHi5HzTE/YcO63w0wjHJPx Y8IrzQvqPcUKp1t28ofN =ZtW0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
