On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 1:28 AM, Steven J Long <sl...@rathaus.eclipse.co.uk> wrote: > Rich Freeman wrote: >>> The Council has voted that Gentoo continue to support that subset, >>> without an initramfs. >> > (The "subset of users" being those who do not need udev before localmount.) > >> Citation, please? >> > > <ulm> New udev and separate /usr partition > <Chainsaw> In my opinion, a separate /usr partition has been a supported > configuration for a very long time and should remain so. > <Betelgeuse> Chainsaw: So to clarify a universal initramfs is not enough? > <Chainsaw> Betelgeuse: No. That is additional work for a clearly broken > package. > > So we must support separate /usr *without* an initramfs. > > <dberkholz> who's going to either "port" udev as necessary, or maintain an > old version forever? > <Chainsaw> I will keep an old version going until the end of time. > <Chainsaw> dberkholz: My plan is to patch reasonable behaviour back into > udev, and going with the upstream releases as long as it is feasible. > > To confirm again, that this is about without initramfs: > <dberkholz> sure i can. maintain old udev-XXX forever, put an elog in new > udev that says "if you want separate /usr without initramfs, install old > udev, mask new, or whatever" > > And again, I ask: if it were *not* about running udev without an initramfs, > then why would anyone even be discussing the possibility of patching or > forking? >
Here is my interpretation: the council voted on the following question: <ulm> The question is: "Decide on whether a separate /usr is still a supported configuration." It did not decide the method that would be used to accomplish this. A few council members (Chainsaw mainly) expressed a desire to do it without an initramfs, but an official stance on this was not put forward. You are reading into it more that you should.