On Fri, 6 Jan 2012 19:41:27 +0100
Enrico Weigelt <weig...@metux.de> wrote:

> * Micha?? G?rny <mgo...@gentoo.org> schrieb:
> 
> > > I don't want to repeat all the arguments, why these
> > > Windows-imitator guys are completely wrong, anymore. (IMHO
> > > already been said in this thread).
> > 
> > Yes, having a single locations for all applications is so-windows.
> > We should go the other way then, and create a separate prefix for
> > every application. I wonder why we removed that awesome /usr/X11R6.
> 
> I was talking about other things, like giving up the typical
> unix-style separation of subsystems, all the bloating happening
> in certain DE's and then pulling down that bloat to the system
> level (just starting w/ dbus)

Yes, three arguments and just a one, silly example which is basically
incorrect assuming noone obliges you to use systemd.

> > > If upstream really wants to stick in that silly chance, it's time
> > > for a fork. We're already allocating about 20..30hrs per week
> > > beginning with 2012/2 for such a project in our resource plan.
> > > This stupidity can become really dangerous thousands of systems
> > > around the world, so it needs to be stopped.
> > 
> > Wow, an enterprise fork taking 20-30 hrs per week to reimplement
> > hacks necessary for running applications randomly spread over
> > filesystems?
> 
> This is just our donation, I'm hoping others will join in.
> For the actual development, half of the resources should be
> fine, but testing dozens of uncommon scenarios will eat up
> a multiple of that.

I thought you reserved that much time for mailing lists.

> > > BTW: the original argument (AFAIK) is that moving everything to
> > > /usr should somehow make maintenance easier. Well, how actually ?
> > > Perhaps for people who are too lazy to backup a few more
> > > directories ? Silly.
> > 
> > Enjoy sharing those few more directories over NFS.
> 
> Yes, what's the big deal ? Done that with thousands of nodes.

Without initramfs? Syncing rootfs over and over again or just updating
packages installing into it once a year?

> > > Actually, at this point, I'd raise the question why not dropping
> > > /usr instead (in little steps). The impact is practically the
> > > same (well, replaces the risk of unbootable system by the risk
> > > of filling up separated / filesystems) but would remove an
> > > then obsolete additional directory. ;-O
> > 
> > That's because people would like to get rid of additional
> > directories in /, not introduce additional ones.
> 
> Aha. Then why not also moving /home, /etc and /var to /usr, too ? ;-o
> (hmm, some mindless jerks really could pick up that silly idea...)

You should consider taking like 1 or 2 hours of your precious time to
read about the use and meaning of various directories in the filesystem.

-- 
Best regards,
Michał Górny

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