Michał Górny schrieb:
> On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 13:06:11 +0100
> Thomas Sachau <to...@gentoo.org> wrote:
> 
>> Michał Górny schrieb:
>>> On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 01:47:38 +0100
>>> Thomas Sachau <to...@gentoo.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> 2. switching from udev to mdev (avoids required /usr of udev)
>>>> 3. some wrapper script to mount /usr before udev starts
>>>
>>> These two should be really discouraged as a cheap, temporary
>>> solution. We should not support hate-admining. I personally think
>>> that busybox is ready to go into /usr even earlier than udev.
>>
>> Please give us a bit more than just your opinion.
>>
>> Why do you see mdev as a temporary solution?
> 
> Because we will then return to this discussion at some later point
> and people will start throwing excrements at us again. So let's be done
> with this at once.

Please tell me, how a replacement for udev, which in the end removes the
requirement for mounted /usr at boot time, should later require a
mounted /usr again.
And please dont tell me, that this will happen because you moved
everything to /usr. This is something you would like to do and wish to
see, but i dont see it happen.

> 
>> And this part was not about the movement to /usr at all, so why do you
>> suggest another movement here? And while you answer that, please also
>> tell us, why you want to migrate packages to a different install
>> location without a need.
> 
> Because we need to finally be able to fix mistakes made in the past
> by other people.

This has already been commented on by grobian and ulm, so i see no need
to dublicate their lines.

>>>> For the idea of complete migration to /usr, i see no reason to go
>>>> this route in advance. Just keep with our default install
>>>> locations and follow upstream, if and where needed.
>>>
>>> What about upstreams who do not care? In other words, all those
>>> packages which we hack to install into rootfs?
>>
>> They install and work fine, so just keep it this way. I did not see
>> any argument to move packages around, that work well and have no
>> issue with their current install location.
> 
> What if, say, upstream introduces pkg-config file where our hacks will
> cause it to be installed into /lib/pkgconfig? Should we then expand
> the hack to cover that, and something else, and then another thing...

Defining a prefix is no "hack", it is an option you can use.

Anyway, we both have probably enough packages with such a "hack"
installed, but i cannot find a single file in /lib/pkgconfig, not even
that dir does exist. Is it different on your system?
If not, then please tell me, why you create some theory about possible
issues, which dont even exist. Dont you have better arguments for your
suggested move to /usr?


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Thomas Sachau
Gentoo Linux Developer

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