Michał Górny wrote: > On Sun, 1 Jan 2012 08:53:26 +0000 > Sven Vermeulen <sw...@gentoo.org> wrote: > >> On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 07:59:47PM -0600, William Hubbs wrote: >> > The goal is to deprecate /bin, /lib, /sbin and /usr/sbin. My >> > understanding is that they want to move software that is installed >> > in /bin, /sbin and /usr/sbin to /usr/bin. Also, they want to move >> > everything from /lib to /usr/lib. >> >> I don't like this one bit. Things used to be simple with the "split" >> between /bin and /usr/bin (and its related directories), this isn't >> going to make it more simple. > > Simple? Should I start requesting additional packages moved into rootfs > because I feel like needing them? Things can and will go more ugly, > and I wouldn't be surprised if anytime soon people will start > complaining because they ran out of space on their rootfs. > Well, it is conceptually quite simple: if it's needed in single-user mode to get your system up and running again, it belongs in rootfs, and if it isn't, then leave it in user-land.
The thing I don't understand is why it is necessary to move stuff from /bin to /usr/bin. After all, if you're running the "approved" setup you don't have a separate /usr so all the binaries are available from the get-go. What does moving them enable that can't be done now? Sure, if you have binaries in /bin that link to libraries in /usr/lib that could be an issue, but only if you're running with a separate /usr and don't have it mounted when udev starts. So again, not the "approved" setup, and something you as an admin already have to deal with by making sure /usr is mounted when udev starts (either via an initramfs, or by a tweak to udev startup scripts[1].) wrt GNU coreutils installing to /usr by default, that's so of every GNU package, since they default to a prefix of /usr/local and it's up to a distro (or the end-user) to configure them differently; in general the package assumes it's an addition to the system, unless told otherwise. (Additionally I'd say that binaries installed to /bin that require libraries installed to /usr is a bug, but something that should be dealt with separately. Though with the direction people seem to think is needed, I'm not sure how much effort anyone will put into that.) [1] http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-6866484.html -- #friendly-coders -- We're friendly, but we're not /that/ friendly ;-)
