Alec Warner posted on Tue, 06 Dec 2011 08:50:52 -0800 as excerpted: > On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 8:39 AM, Rich Freeman <ri...@gentoo.org> wrote: >> On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 11:17 AM, Mike Frysinger <vap...@gentoo.org> >> wrote: >>> ncurses is no longer part of the system deps. in practice, this >>> probably won't make a difference to most people since bash itself >>> depends on ncurses, >>> but it does make embedded/etc... simpler. >> >> Hmm, I wonder how much further we'll have to go before you could use >> portage to build an initramfs. :) > > Whatever man, look at all this bloat! > > virtual/ssh sys-apps/kbd sys-apps/texinfo > > Ok thats about all I could find ;p
I've wanted ssh out of @system for years, but found I had other windmills to tilt at. I do have a netbook and use ssh between my workstation and it, but for years I didn't, and surely, there's a lot of other gentoo users to whom that applies as well. I'd argue that ssh no more belongs in the system set than does xorg- server. They're both at the same level of optional, or at least arguably should be, on a gentoo system. Of course the same applies to kbd and texinfo. All three should be packages that users can pull in if they need them, just as they pull in xorg-server if they need it. But I've tilted enough at that windmill for now... -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman
