Rich Freeman posted on Wed, 12 Oct 2011 23:26:28 -0400 as excerpted: > On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 11:20 PM, Mike Frysinger <vap...@gentoo.org> > wrote: >> isn't that already done with @installed ? `emerge --upgrade >> @installed` > > Well, you'd arguably at least need a -N in there.
Indeed. > Also, this doesn't work in stable portage - I assume this is something > available in the newer branch. Yes. @ denotes a set. Stable portage doesn't have sets in general yet, altho it is setup to recognize the two special sets, @system and @world (which for those sets only, for backward compatibility, may appear with or without the @). > In any case, if that is the "right thing" then we should update > our docs accordingly. Of course, that would need to wait for sets to stabilize. When that might be I haven't the foggiest, but it'd be nice to not have to be running hard-masked portage, again. (FWIW, my world file is entirely empty as all the packages formerly contained therein are now in custom sets, @local.admin, @local.fonts, @local.kde.base.kdebase.workspace, @local.xorg, etc, and those are in turn listed in the world-sets file, not world, which is for packages, not sets.) > Also - will doing an emerge -u @installed add those packages to @world - > ie do we need to throw a -1 in there, or is this behavior coded in as an > exception? Sets are recognized by the @ in front of them, and would normally be added to world-sets instead of world, but there's a number of special sets like @selected (@world minus packages only pulled in by @system) @system, @world, @installed, @live-rebuild (basically -9999 versions), @preserved-rebuild, @security, @unavailable-binaries (AFAIK, @installed minus binpkg-available), @module-rebuild (external kernel modules), @x11- module-rebuild, etc. So yes, @installed is one of the special sets and therefore an exception. But... talking about -1 in context of --best (or whatever), I've always wondered why that wasn't the default, as well. Only add the package to @world if the user specifies to do so. That way a user can remerge an individual package (or set), without having to worry about whether it's going to be added to the world (world-sets) file, as it's only added when the option is specifically listed. But for that to work with --best, --best would have to be in EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTIONS (with --best cancellable by later options if necessary), or people would be even MORE likely to forget to add the -1 for one-off emerges. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman
