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On 30-07-2011 22:17, William Hubbs wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 10:27:27AM +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote:
>> Since running separate /usr without mounting it from initramfs on
>> top of / before init is and has been broken with udev for a long
>> time now[1][2][3]
>> 
>> [1] http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=364235 [2]
>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/UsrMove#Move_all_to_.2Fusr 
>> [3]
>> http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/separate-usr-is-broken
>>
>>
>> 
Can we warn users about not doing the separate /usr mistake in the handbook?
> 
> There are actually two options for us according to upstream. One is
> the one you are talking about -- mounting /usr from an initramfs
> before / is mounted. The other is to mount local file systems, if
> setups are simple enough, before we start udev. I could set this one
> up easily enough just by moving localmount to the boot runlevel.
> 
> Can we discuss both options?

If there's any option that allows the use of a separate /usr partition
without an initramfs, then let's explore it. I don't feel like having to
use an initramfs just because I want a small / without /usr on it.
As others have said, having /usr as a separate partition worked for
years until some people started trying to "shove" bloat on everyone's
systems and then they want us to believe that having /usr as a separate
partition is stupid.

> William

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Regards,

Jorge Vicetto (jmbsvicetto) - jmbsvicetto at gentoo dot org
Gentoo- forums / Userrel / Devrel / KDE / Elections / RelEng
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