-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 30-07-2011 22:17, William Hubbs wrote: > On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 10:27:27AM +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote: >> Since running separate /usr without mounting it from initramfs on >> top of / before init is and has been broken with udev for a long >> time now[1][2][3] >> >> [1] http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=364235 [2] >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/UsrMove#Move_all_to_.2Fusr >> [3] >> http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/separate-usr-is-broken >> >> >> Can we warn users about not doing the separate /usr mistake in the handbook? > > There are actually two options for us according to upstream. One is > the one you are talking about -- mounting /usr from an initramfs > before / is mounted. The other is to mount local file systems, if > setups are simple enough, before we start udev. I could set this one > up easily enough just by moving localmount to the boot runlevel. > > Can we discuss both options?
If there's any option that allows the use of a separate /usr partition without an initramfs, then let's explore it. I don't feel like having to use an initramfs just because I want a small / without /usr on it. As others have said, having /usr as a separate partition worked for years until some people started trying to "shove" bloat on everyone's systems and then they want us to believe that having /usr as a separate partition is stupid. > William - -- Regards, Jorge Vicetto (jmbsvicetto) - jmbsvicetto at gentoo dot org Gentoo- forums / Userrel / Devrel / KDE / Elections / RelEng -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJONKjzAAoJEC8ZTXQF1qEPLjEP/i8oGv6aP3RH1SokVG5llfuq j0pckRZOTcqcHl4CM7ZfvYvixLR8XZK1ZSRk3DnysxUQCrI6fNvYr1/8EqJUIB9j wM5XRshkyOwh8VpwdTdd/y0XhcE1MaAqwXOXOO2FrnuH6cd6RR0YFbeVVbL62kni PdTV+DNY2Wbo1fn8xAY0lRANMqghNXPGBK4/5kYuwCBME1xaV/cRkbDrtUnznWbq dsCshhm5m2ertOHuRZzDQfpUOlS0J5RiE8zvAqyasC1stT3TcegcnTL/M8zxOoF8 jxcPJCIsVx/WfKrDXT9qgSOo9/E2X182dLN/6br2prV/Yvjb0nMcC1orsueHDnVo WHvYCEZ7ZlLIMw6boiWycqzRcxSrz24XQLufyWwcYUpWdxHmToNPW6dOQvM+ZcNz QAOs3fAR7NinGHMRkl9AehCbK1PiKBBmiZU/KXcCffBabWsUuwWEwhxz0BNGvLgZ 62NgPM1HbF3+azq+mqre2tp2mu3s4cVUiu12Zf5SBXTJP98FCIX9Q+vpypoQGhjv R1JtlozfOunPYnLaEBT0pz/Rev9HrdxIpslKcQug6N3u/1Z0+COUSEatr9xJDSOb fXD6c+Cm4zFcJx1hiZ2+qyidhcX57uC+2Y6GIVGhHKOBwJSFna0DGsQw8iMbNk8Y OQ2x6i+JYAqyUKZdJLP3 =bxvJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----