On Wed, Aug 04, 2010 at 08:47:36PM +0300, Petteri Räty wrote: > On 08/04/2010 08:34 PM, Markos Chandras wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 04, 2010 at 07:12:18PM +0300, Petteri Räty wrote: > >> On 08/04/2010 02:50 PM, Markos Chandras wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> @Council: Yet another example that we need to track the status of every > >>> single project in order to have a clear picture of which projects are > >>> active and which are dead > >>> > >> > >> Pruning projects that don't actively elect a lead would be a good start > >> and that doesn't require anything from the council to be implemented. > >> > >> Regards, > >> Petteri > >> > > Don't you think we need a team for that? Who is eligible to filter the > > project > > list and ask status updates from them? > > > > I think undertakers can take care of any possible cleanup commits as > they already touch project pages for developer retirements. Is there enough manpower for that ? > If you want > to join for that purpose just be in contact with them and I think they > will accept my proposal. I wish I could but I am involved in way too many projects. Maybe on September. > As for just status queries I think anyone could > query the status from projects and nothing special is required. Of > course we should coordinate so that many simultaneous queries are not done. > > Regards, > Petteri > The inactivity of many herds most of the time blocks the work of some other herds. Isn't council's responsibility to step up and resolve these interproject issues? It shouldn't be that difficult to ask for monthly project status updates ( A simple "Yes, we are alive but slow kthxbye" would be sufficient, just to know that somebody is actually listening to that e-mail alias after all ), discuss this on Council's monthly meetings ( Shouldn't it take more than 20' if you already have the status updates on your Inbox ) and decide whether you should prune these herds or not. IMHO undertakers cannot handle the load atm but council can.
Furthermore this inactivity ( as I said before ) doesn't look that good at all to our user community . Moreover it seems like dead herds don't even bother to ask for help or "hire" more proxy maintainers to co-maintainer some of their ebuilds. They just stay quiet on their corner and do nothing. Since Council is supposed to be the leading entity of Gentoo I was wondering how come this issue never popped up on any of your meetings. Do you really don't see a problem here or I am just that weird and everything is running smoothly? -- Markos Chandras (hwoarang) Gentoo Linux Developer Web: http://hwoarang.silverarrow.org Key ID: 441AC410 Key FP: AAD0 8591 E3CD 445D 6411 3477 F7F7 1E8E 441A C410
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