On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 04:18:27 -0700 Brian Harring <ferri...@gmail.com> wrote: > Summarizing ciaran's claim to end this nonsense- > > VALID_USE isn't useful because use cycle breaking can't be done > according to strictures he desires, as such VALID_USE is pointless > because pkg_pretend can cover it. > > It's a bit brief and likely left out an insult or two, but it's to > the point at least and doesn't need more expounding of his views.
Brian, you may find it beneficial to learn that criticism of a proposal is not the same as an insult, and that correct criticism remains valid regardless of where it comes from. Once you learn to accept that, you may start finding it considerably easier to work with large teams on technical issues. And no. My claim is that since VALID_USE on its own doesn't allow for anything that can't also be done by pkg_pretend, and since pkg_pretend can do things that developers and users need that VALID_USE can't, and since pkg_pretend doesn't break anything that's not already broken, VALID_USE shouldn't be a priority. The issue can be revisited for EAPI 5 when there's more Portage development time available, and when it is revisited, it should be done with related issues such as ensuring that cycle breaking is possible without randomly breaking user systems in horrible ways. -- Ciaran McCreesh
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