On Fri, 5 Mar 2010 10:10:00 +0100 Dirkjan Ochtman <d...@gentoo.org> wrote:
> Because 'stable' denotes that it works as intended, that it can be > installed easily, etc. All of these are true now for python3. There > are applications being written for it. We want to package those too. > I'm fine with people masking it, and maybe we should make that easier > somehow, but 3.x should definitely be stable. It does *not* work as intended. Here, since your selective quoting missed every point I made, lemme make 'em again: >> Python 3 is a new major version of Python and is intentionally incompatible >> with Python 2. Many external modules have not been ported yet to Python 3, so >> currently Python 3.1 should not be set as main active version of Python. >> Setting Python 3.1 as main active version of Python is currently unsupported. >> When it will change, a separate news item will be created to notify users. >So nothing uses it yet, and it's completely incompatible with 90% of the >numerous python/pygtk apps already on my system, so it'll just sit there, >SLOTted, doing nothing but taking up more space on my very limited SSD, while >Python 2.6 is the version that's actually in use by every single app. Like I said before, like it says *in the news item*, "stuff does not work with it." How does that qualify as "works as intended" when it will not work with all my packages that use Python? If you believe stabilizing a package should be done in a vacuum, in an idealized world where no other package cares about another, then congrats, you're on the right track. >> Currently Python 3.1 should *NOT* be set as [the] main active version of >> Python. This is in the friggin' news item itself. If it should not be used, then don't force stable users to install it. > It will *NOT* under this proposal be the default. Please formulate > more carefully if you want to make an argument. If it's stable, then users get it by default, assuming they run the stable tree. They install a recent stage3, build their system, run emerge -uD world. Bam, a useless version of Python is now installed. Nothing on their systems will use it, so it's bloat. > but 3.x should definitely be stable No one has said yet why this is. So . . . direct question, gimme a direct answer: why?
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