On 02/08/2010 01:30 PM, Tomáš Chvátal wrote: > Dne 8.2.2010 12:15, Nikos Chantziaras napsal(a): >> Hello. Please don't be too harsh if I got this wrong or if this looks >> like whining :P > >> A lot of ebuilds seem to ignore the "X" USE flag and instead only have >> "gtk", "qt" and the like. This should be declared absolutely wrong, >> IMHO. When a program provides a command-line tool and a GUI tool, and >> the GUI tool uses only one toolkit, then the USE flag should be "X". >> "gtk" vs "qt" vs "fltk" etc should be used only in cases where a program >> can be built with either of those toolkits. When there's only one >> choice, then this doesn't make sense. Isn't this what the "X" USE flag >> is there for in the first place? Having a package where, say, Gtk is >> *not* optional having a "gtk" USE flag doesn't make sense. The X tool >> of that package is optional, but Gtk is not optional for the X tool. > >> A Gnome user probably has "X gtk -qt" in make.conf, while a KDE user has >> "X qt -gtk" in hope to have programs that support both Gtk and Qt being >> built with the toolkit that is more native to his DE. When a package >> has a GUI tool that is able to only use one of those toolkits, people >> who have it disabled in make.conf will get no GUI tool at all even >> though they have "X" in their USE flags. > >> I hope I was able to explain the problem (as I see it) correctly :P If >> people agree with me, it might be a good idea for maintainers of >> packages that behave like that to start using "X" as the USE flag that >> controls building of the packages GUI tools. > > > Sounds sane. For correct usage lately the mplayer ebuild was rewritten > this way. > > Might be good idea to open tracker for these and all bugs cced to it. So > interested persons can fix it. > > Note for maintainers: qa bugs are considered as issue when adding new > packages. In longer perspective it is good to have them fixed, but you > don't have to proactively fix old packages. Writing this before people > starts complaining we are again filling lots of bugs. > > @qa: any objections against me opening the tracker? > > To sum up the issue: > use X wrap all other widget useflags if there is CLI interface > available, so if user don't want X usage for package he just set -X and > rest widget flags don't matter at all. > > Tomas
IMHO. USE="X" is for controlling X.org dependencies, not for avoiding everything that deps on them, so I disagree. MPlayer is a bad example here. The reason for writing it like that is all the flags enabled by default with +. -Samuli
