On Tuesday 13 October 2009 19:33:27 Branko Badrljica wrote: > Thomas Sachau wrote: > > I disagree in this place. ~arch is called testing because it actually is > > about TESTING new versions and packages. You should expect problems and > > you should be able to recover from them and you should be able to use > > bugzilla. Else i suggest you move to a stable arch instead. > > > > Your arguments could make sense, if it would be about the stable tree, > > but forcing the testing tree to be a second stable tree, just with newer > > package versions isnt our goal nor does it help anyone. > > 1. Much of the time on Gentoo using of ~ packages is not user explicit > choice but forced compromise.
i really dont buy this argument, but ignoring that, poor admin policy is no excuse. blindly accepting all unstable versions of a package instead of pinning a specific version and then expecting a stable system isnt going to happen. Thomas is absolutely right here. > 3. My main if not only argument was about at last documenting such changes. documentation doesnt write itself. this isnt directed specifically at you, but clamoring "gimme gimme gimme" is more likely to get people to tell you to toss off than get what you want. the only reason the new openrc version happened is that someone (Matthias) stepped up to do work because other people didnt have time to do it. if he keeps getting dumped on, i cant imagine him volunteering for such a thing again. if the current docs need expanding, then they will. as for how soon, that depends on someone volunteering to do it. -mike
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