On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 21:41:13 +0200, Patrick Lauer <patr...@gentoo.org> wrote: > On Sunday 13 September 2009 21:03:13 Jesús Guerrero wrote: >> On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 20:57:48 +0200, Patrick Lauer <patr...@gentoo.org> >> >> wrote: >> > First issue: How do I find out in which overlay stuff is? >> >> http://gentoo.zapto.org/ > > That's not an official project, not mentioned in the layman docs afaik > (feel > free to prove me wrong :) ) and only list the overlays in the layman > config. > It's just one step above "fetch from the bugzilla bug" ;) > (Ok, I'm exaggerating a bit, but it's still very user-unfriendly ...)
I don't know what your point there is. Layman is not official either as far as I know, and the overlays are unsupported by Gentoo directly. >> > Second issue: "I want foopackage and barpackage, but not your hacked >> > gcc" >> > Overlays can overshadow tree packages, which can have undesired >> > effects. >> >> Smart overlays shouldn't do that (and if you are using ~arch then it's >> *your* problem). > How would you avoid it? If I had an overlay I'd dump everything in it that > looks remotely interesting to me, and I don't care what you think should > be in > my overlay ;) How? ~arch keywords? And, if you are in ~arch, then you are smart enough to live with this as well. >> Yep. All comes down to the same, lack of man power I think. > Always. And if you ever think you're done some users file some new bugs :) > So if you feel unhappy about things go fix them. You have the power! > (And any excuse that you are not talented enough or whatever ... look, > they > let me commit to the tree too!) > > Plus there's all the other fronts in the battle for the best linux distro. > Bugwrangling, documentation maintenance, security issues, ... there are > enough > possibilities even for those that can't or don't want to work on ebuilds > directly. Just start working on stuff, ask when you need help and it'll be > even better soon. > > See? It's easy. And you have no excuse not to help. Now just do stuff! :) No. It's not me who's unhappy about the current status of things ;) I already do my work in other areas and I have no more time than I devote to Gentoo already. I maintain overlays to a minimum, and when I need an overlay I just pick it and put it into my personal overlay. Yes, every forum staffer could very well become a developer and spend their time doing some ebuilding, but then we would have a crappy forum full of spam (believe me, it takes time to keep it clean) :) -- Jesús Guerrero
