On Tue, 2009-05-26 at 11:27 +0200, lx...@sabayonlinux.org wrote: > On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 9:05 AM, Philipp Riegger <li...@anderedomain.de> > wrote: > > And all this layer thing Fabio was talking about. I did not try it and I > > did not read the code, but I think it makes things much more > > complicated. See also the discussion about mixing package managers > > between Gentoo and Sabayon. I do not want these problems.
> incorrect. Give it a spin ;) I'll do, if i find the time. > Problems we have were *only* related to Portage world file handling, > fixed some time ago. I am sorry to say that the issue reported here > doesn't seem to be valid. Of course, if you mix both, you need to pay > attention to not change USE flags (for eg.) that trigger libraries > compilation, but that's a known binary-world problem. You're talking about binary-world problems here that Gentoo as a source based distribution does not have, I assume. This is a strength of Gentoo and I think we can keep it for binary packages by a good design. If you emerge a package in Gentoo it gets build from source. If you use a binary distribution, you cannot influence, what flags were used for building the package. But with a hybrid approach (I was aming for that one in my proposal), you would simply have the choice to either install a binary package and be restricted, if it's not available in the way you want it, or install it from source. And it would work together, because you don't have 2 package managers that need to interface, talk, share, work together, whatever, but you have 1 package manager that does it all and can keep it consistent. > I agree with you that there could be some more room for improvements > here and there (especially in kernel module ebuilds), but with EAPI=2 > we're going in the right direction. Kernel packages and kernel modules are not really of interest for me. I would keep them as source packages. My aim is not to make thigns easier, but to provide the user with the tools to save 8 hours of compiling openoffice or something like that. Not a binary distribution, but some kind of -bin packages, just packaged by Gentoo and better. Philipp
