Thomas Anderson wrote:
It seems to me you're on a irc-hate rampage. There are many devs who
rarely, if ever, go on irc. The _only_ requirement is that  you conduct
a real-time interview with a recruiter.

I have to agree with this sentiment - I have nothing against IRC but it is a bit too realtime for me to be on it routinely. However, I didn't have any trouble spending time with my mentor on IRC as it is a much more productive way to learn the ropes. Sure, lots of time was spent reading docs/etc, and doing ebuild exercises/etc. However, the direct conversations were also an invaluable part of the process (even if it is hard to schedule an hour just sitting at the keyboard with family/etc).

Plus, it is essential that there be some kind of interviewing process to become a dev. A gentoo dev potentially has the power to hose the systems of everybody running gentoo - so we owe it to ourselves and our user communities to vet any candidate for this position. Sure, we want to know that they know how to write ebuilds, but we also want to know that they have a good attitude and some common sense as well. We count on devs to understand their own limitations and to not try to singlehandedly revamp baselayout/etc without careful coordination with the rest of the community.

I also echo what has been said about projects like Sunrise and overlays as being good gateways into gentoo.

Oh, I'm not sure I agree that new devs should be grilled to the n'th degree on obscure ebuild knowledge. It is more important that they know where to go and have demonstrated the ability to use this knowledge than it is for them to have this memorized. If it takes a dev 28 hours of tinkering to get an ebuild right I could care less as long as it is right on the first actual commit. When it comes to package management being careful is generally more important than being quick. It is also critical that devs be able to interact in a professional manner and relate well to our user community as well.

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